You may not be exactly right in your stats on the LA County Jail. but you are close for discussion.
Where your are grossly incorrect,dishonest, is in trying to say that those in that jail are the common illegal alien. The reality is that a high percentage of these inmates are in the drug trade and other organized crime and have nothing to do with illegal aliens. LA is a major drug market and distribution center. The same is true for those in the federal prison.
This is your propaganda technique.
No doubt, the uninformed will believe your propaganda, especially those that want to hear what they want to hear.
As I said on a previous reply, this is not an issue of my fact versus your fact, it is issue of where Congress gets their facts and what those facts are. I can tell you with 100% certainty that they are not listening your propaganda, they are listenting to the Dept of Justice. The Dept of Justice cotradicts you.
Are you trying to say that illegal aliens have a lower propensity to commit crime than other populations? Or that we consider illegal aliens who are involve in the drug trade and other organized criminal activities as a separate category?
I believe that we started by talking about illegal alien perpetrated crime. You denied disproportionate crime in the illegal alien community vs the public at large You tried to get me to buy off on crime stats and I wouldn't bite. I suggested that disproportionate jail and prison population demographics made those other figures meaningless. I still believe they do. I don't think it's dishonest at all to point out that in our state with a 5 to 10% illegal alien presence, LA County jail has a 50% population of illegal aliens, and the federal prison has a 27% presence of illegal aliens.
It is not accurate to state that I said those who are incarcerated are typical of the average illegal alien (not what you said exactly, but more precisely what you inferred). I realize that there are many illegal aliens in our nation that despite breaking out laws to come here, and despite working in violation of our laws, and sapping our healthcare and education resource dry, they do not break other laws. That isn't even germain to the discussion. They do not belong here. They are here in violation of our laws. That alone places them in a status that is continually outside the law of our nation. Outside factors do not mitigate these facts.
Now, returning to the extreme criminal eliment. Your arguement was one that really threw me. You said, "The reality is that a high percentage of these inmates are in the drug trade and other organized crime and have nothing to do with illegal aliens. LA is a major drug market and distribution center. The same is true for those in the federal prison." Yes Ben, they have nothing to do with illegal aliens except that, and I shouldn't have to have to remind you of this, they are illegal aliens Ben. How can you sit there and make the claim that they shouldn't reflect on the overall illegal alien presence?
Basicly you made my case for me. According to you LA is a major drug market and distribution center. And why is that Ben? Who is most involved in that drug trafficing, organized crime et al? Why none other than the very illegal aliens you constantly shill for? Your own admissions back up what I've been trying to get you to agree to. And this you refer to as "your propaganda technique."
Ben, I'm not trying to hoodwink anyone into signing on to anything. I am trying to address an issue in terms that make sense to people. You simply cannot make the claim that illegal aliens are not disproportionately arrested and convicted of violent and serious major crime. Jail and prison population mixes destroy your claims to the contrary.
Now, you have said in a number of replies that the Justice Department disagrees with me. Ben, the Justice Department is free to destroy it's own credibility any time it likes. It won't be the first time and I doubt it will be the last. Yes Ben, the Department of Justice does contradict me. It also contradicts the facts, to the destruction of it's own credibility.
Ask them to explain how 27% of the federal prision population in California came to be illegal aliens, despite the fact that only 5 to 10% of the states' populace were illegal aliens.
While you're at it, ask the Justice Department how they signed off on a plan that wound up burning 80 men women and children to death at Waco. As if the Justice Department had a shred of credibility left to destroy...