Posted on 03/31/2006 12:13:03 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
"...statistics on the "bad" effects of illegal immigrations are likewise suspect."
Not all of them.
http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iic_immigrationissuecenters0b9c
I can't figure out what these people believe/understand/know. This is a big mystery to me.
susie
LOL! I love your silver suit. Judging by the way the thread is going, you will need the suit and the calm, rational attitude that goes with it.
" Perhaps you're unaware that it's a historical reference to an anti-immigration political movement of the 1850s."
That was the anti LEGAL immigration movement.
We are the anti ILLEGAL immigration movement.
Confuse the two and face our wrath.
The speeding laws are not being strictly enforced either. Do you favor increasing the number of traffic cops on the highways?
Yeah, lately more and more people who I have respected have disappointed me on this issue. I feel like I've fallen down the rabbit hole, or into the Twilight Zone....
susie
Sure -- but if the number of illegals is not accurately known, then one doesn't know if illegals are statistically more or less likely than, say, blacks or Hispanic citizens to be in prison.
Columnists typically have no control over the article headline. It's a problem here because it's difficult to determine whether or not the column has been previously posted.
What a crock of cr@p! This needs a barf alert.
Let me get this on the record. You see illegally crossing the border of the United States AND illegally working in the country without the proper documents to be the same thing as speeding? Yes or no?
susie
Princeton University sociologist Douglas S. Massey reports that 62 percent of illegal immigrants pay income taxes (via withholding) and 66 percent contribute to Social SecurityEven for illegals who pretend to be legal, do you think they are honest about the number of dependents when they fill out their w-2's?
Payroll taxes are not dependent on dependents.
Furthermore, people using a fake SS number will seldom file a tax return. That money just accumulates there, and nobody claims it.
Nah, idiots just like to use strawmen arguments.
I suppose because when they pick you up and toss you in prison they check your status.....
You're welcome.
susie
"10 percent send kids to public schools."
Only if he re-defines who is an illegal. Anchor babies must not be included in this.
Do they really think the 12 million, i.e. 20+ million, aliens that are about to be given citizenship are going to go and enlist in the Club For Growth?
Are they that delusional?
I doubt it. But for some reason they want US to believe it. Seems to be working on some people...
susie
I don't see it as name-calling -- it's just a convenient and fairly accurate comparison to the similar concerns of a historical group. If the comparison hurts, too bad: the context of his use of the term is appropriate.
What happened in California afterwards? The GOP used to own that state. Now look at it. In Texas, we handled the issue differently. And we are still solidly GOP, even though we have a large Hispanic population. See the difference?
Do you want f&*&*ng Hillary Clinton as President, Nancy Pelosi as Speaker, and Harry Reid as majority leader? That's straight where this political Buchananite anti-immigration trainwreck is leading. President Bush understands this. But he was merely a former two-term Governor of Texas. What the heck does he know?
"illegal immigrants in 2004 accounted for 95 percent of all outstanding homicide warrants in Los Angeles and two-thirds of unserved felony warrants."
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