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To: inquest
That lie gets constantly trotted out by the Open Borders Lobby, and there's never anything to back it up. How did Prop 187 pass if it was so unpopular?

What happened in California afterwards? The GOP used to own that state. Now look at it. In Texas, we handled the issue differently. And we are still solidly GOP, even though we have a large Hispanic population. See the difference?

Do you want f&*&*ng Hillary Clinton as President, Nancy Pelosi as Speaker, and Harry Reid as majority leader? That's straight where this political Buchananite anti-immigration trainwreck is leading. President Bush understands this. But he was merely a former two-term Governor of Texas. What the heck does he know?

79 posted on 03/31/2006 12:46:24 PM PST by kesg
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To: kesg
The GOP used to own that state. Now look at it.

And naturally you assume that that was because of a law that the people themselves voted for. Of course! It's always been a bedrock principle of politics that you can't let people vote for something that's unpopular. :-S

96 posted on 03/31/2006 12:53:01 PM PST by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: kesg
The GOP used to own that state. Now look at it. In Texas, we handled the issue differently. And we are still solidly GOP, even though we have a large Hispanic population. See the difference?

No. I don't see that illegal immigration or Prop 187 has caused the GOP to "lose control" of California -- its legislature has been controlled by the D's for decades, and it's been a liberal mess for at least as long.

97 posted on 03/31/2006 12:53:19 PM PST by r9etb
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To: kesg
Do you want f&*&*ng Hillary Clinton as President, Nancy Pelosi as Speaker, and Harry Reid as majority leader? That's straight where this political Buchananite anti-immigration trainwreck is leading.

Some of you just won't stop. Here let me fix it for you so can stop beating that straw man:

anti-ILLEGAL immigration

There, now that we defined terms, argue away.

122 posted on 03/31/2006 12:58:38 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: kesg

"What happened in California afterwards? The GOP used to own that state. "

Really? Is this why Boxer won in 1992 and Feinstein in 1994?

Face it. CA is a liberal state, not because of the hispanic vote, but the vote of white liberals.


565 posted on 03/31/2006 10:49:20 PM PST by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/)
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