Posted on 03/30/2006 8:52:52 PM PST by Calpernia
We all know her politics were lefty before she got captured, but I put zero credence in statements made while being held captive by terrorists. Let's give this some time. She'll have the opportunity to talk about this again when she is not under duress and then we'll see.
Nah...only other muslims are allowed to throw stones at her for minor offenses.
Was Laura held captive? If not, then why is she any different?
>>>Are there packages (travel) suitable for my old Aunt Tilly?
Actually, yes.
http://www.theotheriraq.com/index.html
Travel industry is being promoted, see Share the Dream video clip.
:)
Excellent post NW_AZ
I'm still suspicious of Jill Carroll being an anti war activist; but even if that is true, most of the leftests are brainwashed and still fall into that explanation you posted.
BTTT
The only nice thing I can say is that she does not have the discipline of a military person and probably felt she would be killed unless she said all this stuff. Still, to not disavow it after her release shows she was a terrorist sympathizer from the start.
>>>Was Laura held captive?
Excerpt from Laura's book, 'Inshallah'
Egypt. Even the word sounds mysterious and romantic. It conjures up images of Pharonic monuments, romantic cruises on the River Nile, and images of a young Omar Sharif.
As a girl born and raised in the American Deep South, I was drawn to the romance and exotic images I had of Egypt.
When I met Hassan, I had the chance to make those fantasies my reality. Or so I thought.
In many ways, Egypt was everything I hoped it would be. For most of the time I was there, it was my land of opportunity. I could do anything I set my mind to. When it comes to Egypt, most people have images of a misogynistic culture, where women have few rights, freedom, and responsibility, I found Egypt to be the exact opposite.
I had complete freedom of movement through the city. I took exotic vacations to places like Cyprus and the Islands of Greece, and I visited ancient monuments like Petra in Jordan as well as the ancient monuments in Egypt.
I had Egyptian Christian friends who eagerly showed me the tradition spot near Cairo where legend said the baby Moses was found in the bulrushes. I visited the spot on the Red Sea Coast near the Gulf of Suez where legend holds that Moses parted the Red Sea.
I was in an Islamic country, under great pressure to convert to Islam, but somehow my faith in God and my belief in Christ as my personal savior only grew stronger.
I learned a new language – Arabic. I met world leaders including a former U.S. President (Jimmy Carter), a future US President (George H.W. Bush), and a terrorist leader and his brother (Yassir Arafat and his brother Dr. Fathi Arafat).
In many ways, Egypt was wonderful to me.
But there was a dark side.
The man I married turned out to be an Islamist, a radical Muslim fundamentalist, with an ingrained hatred for all things that violated the tenets of Islam.
I went from being the trophy wife to being the symbol of everything he hated.
I met jihadis – mujahideen just back from fighting in Afghanistan.
And towards the end of my years in Egypt, I knew the fear that only a mother who is trapped in an Islamic country can know – the fear that she can never go home and the constant awareness that in a moment, with no cause and no warning, your children can be taken away from you forever.
That is the power that a Muslim man holds over a woman in an Islamic country.
If the woman is Moslem she has a few limited rights.
If she is Christian, she has no rights whatsoever.
/Excerpt
Cal you are correct about the left and brainwashing, did you take a quick look at the google I posted, looks interesting.
On Miss Jill not having changed her story, on the 6 am ABC radio news, they say that she is expected to leave Iraq
today.
If I were she and still in Iraq, I would not have told the truth to any news reporter, I would say only what they wanted me to say.
Like everyone else, I too want to read her future articles, it will be very interesting hear what she has to say.
I also think she was an anti war activist. BUT, if she wasn't, she might not be able to disavow her statements yet. There may be existing threats to her or family's welfare that are still real in Jill Carroll's mind.
No, I didn't take a look at the google search yet. I have to get some posts up on our NJ budget issue. We are going to be holding a protest in Trenton soon.
I couldn't reconcile the pleading, crying woman begging the coalition to submit to the terrorist demands with the woman now telling how very well treated she was.
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Her pleading, crying video could have been acting instead of sincere emotion. I think she is seriously antiBushwar.
"Terrible things are happening to them with the American soldiers are torturing them and other things I don't want, I can't even say, so I feel guilty"
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The other hostages from the Christian Peace something group also believe the above statement. They state that their 'mission' in Iraq was to search out Iragi families who had relatives in Abu Ghraib, take testimony, and 'help' get them freed from captivity.
Probably everyone who listens to Err Amerika believes this.
One result: Abu Ghraib prison is going to be closed.
She couldn't have been brainwashed if she had stayed out of a war zone in
the firt place.
And still no words of remorse for her translator. <<<<
You are correct, death is the chance we all take when we enter a war zone, for any reason.
Could it be that the translator was killed after she left the scene? and that she knows nothing about it?
I have no love for the left or the peace loving fools, who think that shining the light of love, will solve a war that is more evil than any we have fought.
I do understand a writer wanting to go to the war zone, in fact, I do not understand how one can be a good writer, if one does not know the real truth of what went on.
I had lost a foster son in Viet Nam, watched all the news, knew all about what happened every day......10 years later,
not connected with Fred, I found that I needed to know the real truth about Viet Nam, if I was to write about it.
Working in a truck stop solved that, the men who had been there, the real men, taught me what I did not know from staying home and being a good mother and citizen.
At 850koa.com you can listen to radio programs on the air, I hope they have archieved the programs as one of the reporters, returned from Iraq a couple weeks ago.
I think his name was Stephen Stubbs, he said he had a blog on his webpage there about his trip.
I was lucky enough to hear several of his calls home and the first when he returned to his morning news program.
I listened to his first calls, saying what you expect, making connections, not getting to the team he was to go out with, etc.
Then about 2 am one morning, he phoned during the Rick Barbor program, it had been one hell of a day, and he kept saying that he needed to hear a normal voice, to please talk to him.
He was out of Bagdad, with the Iraq Police, with the American Military at a distance.
They had been on patrol, all was calm, they were back at the station and all hell broke loose. Full attack on them and the station.
His praise for the Iraq Police and the army that he had worked with, was the highest, watching, being with and their attempts to keep him safe, was the finest effort that the men could put out.
Even to the Machine Gunner who stands in the back of the truck, to get in as many shots as he can, until the last minute before he is shot or seeks safety.
Stephen told of having been out that morning, on Patrol, thru several small villages, a boring nothing trip, with nothing happening in any of the villages.
On the return trip, something had changed, They came to the bridge that they had crossed only hours before, stopped and
checked it out, it had been wired and set to explode, 5 or 6 caches of explosives, ready to go.
Our Military Explosive Team, came and took care of the problems, it took hours, waiting, on the wrong side of the river.......hot and thristy.
Did you know that Saddam had all the bridges mined several years ago?
Saddam buried caches of explosives on them, in such a manner that you do not see them, they are deep enough to escape detection and all it takes is the timer and a few wires to set it off.
All the roads and bridges, started getting ready about two years before we got there, it just made sense to me, about or before our 9-11.
Stephen told of going to towns that had Never had running water before, but do now, thanks to our hard work.
Yes, there are electric shortages, the terrorists blow up the lines and plants as quickly as we repair them.
Stephen was so impressed with the children, that he is working with the Military men and women, not the officers, but the real Military who are on the ground, they have a plan to get the school supplies for the Iraq children, he was going to open a fund for it.
I heard him the first morning he was back on his news program, among the things he said was:
On the subject of politics, he was middle of the road before he went to Iraq.
His trip to Iraq was the most important trip/thing that had happened to him in his career. (Rick said he had worked with him for 20 years, so we are talking about a middle aged man).
Then Stephen said:
"Never again will I look on the war in Iraq the same again, we need to be there and we must finish the job, it is worth while to do this job".
I of course am hoping that Jill went to Iraq for the same basic reason that Stephen did, which was to find the truth for himself.
It is sad that her truth, can never be the same as Stephens was.
Had my life been different, I think, it is possible that I would have been one of the fools that had to go and see the truth for myself, no, I was never on the left and my memory of WW2, is clear enough, that I feel I know a lot about war,
and have not been there in person.
According to the 6 am ABC radio news, Jill Carroll was still in Iraq.
I will form my opinion on her, when I read what she has to say about being in Iraq.
Not by what a jihadi makes her say in return for another day of life.
Or what one of the jihadi supporting newspapers reports.
I am glad she is a writer, we may hear a different story in time.
>>>Had my life been different, I think, it is possible that I would have been one of the fools that had to go and see the truth for myself
One of the American Legion Groups I work with has a nonprofit group that goes and rebuilds in former war zones. I was given the opportunity to join them in Iraq to rebuild. Still can go if I change my mind.
If I didn't have 3 on the hip, I would go. I even spoke to my husband a few times about what a great life experience it would be for all of us to go. He didn't even entertain the thought about bringing the kids :))
I didn't press it at all because I don't think I could bring my kids to a war zone ;)
Laughing, as I think that I also wish you lived next door.
We could protest on Hwy 68.
Something along the line of "WAKE UP AMERICA"!
I should be safe there, as they can't take me to jail, my
Oxygen bottle is explosive.......LOL
When you have time for the google, it will prove interesting.
Thank you for posting Laura's story, it helps one to understand her words and her great knowledge of that world.
Laughing at loud when I read all the way to your signature.
Husband is correct, now is not the time to take children to Iraq.
In fact, leave husband at home, with the Grandma's and go alone, there will be plenty of Military there to protect you.
It would be a trip for the memory bank.
When I was young and wanted to race cars, I was told no, as I had kids to raise.
They gave me the same story when I wanted to build a helicopter with a VW engine, from a kit.....stay alive and take care of the kids.
Now I say the same things to my grandkids, "you have kids to take care of", and it is too late for me.
You will one day be a top writer, you must go and see more of the world........
But do be careful.
A blonde in Iraq will be well protected, by half the U.S.
forces......LOL
Well, I think we will be in war and rebuilding for years. When my kids are older, I don't doubt that is something I would do.
I have to be mom first. They won't be children for years.
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