Posted on 03/30/2006 8:52:52 PM PST by Calpernia
The following is a trancript of the video released this morning on the internet by the "Mujahideen of Iraq", showing a pre-release interview that the jihadis did with American hostage Jill Carroll.
The interview, conducted in English except for a brief portion at the end, can be downloaded from http://www.lauramansfield.com/j/jolkorl2.rm
Male speaker: Dear Carroll. We are from the mujahideen in Iraq.
(Jill Carroll nods her head)
Male speaker: Please we want to ask you some questions.
Jill Carroll: mmmK
Male speaker: How did the mujahideen treat you?
Jill Carroll: They treated me very well, they treated me very well. Like a guest. I was given very good food, kept very safe, treated very, very well,"
Male speaker: Did you think the American army or the CIA would save you at any time?
Jill Carroll: I thought maybe they might. Sometimes I thought maybe that they might come, they might find me, they might find a way to know where I am and come, and come get me. I did think maybe they might.
Male speaker: Why did not they save you?
Jill Carroll: Well, I think the mujahideen are very, are very, are very smart and even with all the technology and even with all technologies and all the people that the American army has here, they still are better at knowing how to live and work here, and more clever, despite all the technology of the American army, they are still more clever, and better at being here than the American army, they are still better at what they do.
Male speaker: Does this mean anything to you?
Jill Carroll: Well I think it makes it very clear that the mujahideen are the ones that will win in the end, in this war, I think it makes it very clear that even with thousands of troops and airplanes and tanks and guns that that doesn't mean anything here on the ground in Iraq, I think it shows over time, over time, maybe, however many months are left in the Iraqi occupation, that its pretty clear that the mujahideen are the ones that will have the victory at the end of the day. It shows that no matter what the Americans try to say is happening here, or try to do with all there weapons, they are mistaken, the are not going to be able to stop the mujahideen here in Iraq.
Male speaker: What will you tell the American people about the mujahideen when you go back to America?
Jill Carroll: Well, first of all I want them to understand the mujahideen truly. There are a lot of lies that come out of the American government calling the mujahideen terrorists, I think it is important that the American people hear from me that the mujahideen are only trying to defend their country, it's only a jihad to stop an illegal and dangerous and deadly occupation. I think its important to see that the mujahideen are people like we've seen throughout history resisting an occupation, trying to fight a foreign force in their land. It's their country and they have a right to fight for their own freedom. So I think, I want people to understand that. That its not people that like to kill, not people that like violence, but people that love their country, and that want to see their country free of occupation.
And also I want them to understand that the situation in Iraq in general, how difficult it is here. People don't have electricity, they don't have water. Children don't have good safe streets to walk in. Women and children are always in danger here. Houses are always destroyed. People are killed left and right in the street without any reason, people die every day from the bombings and the shootings that go on and all these things, so I think people need to understand in American how difficult life is here for normal average Iraqis, how every day is a matter of survival, life or death for most Iraqis and thousands and thousands and tens of thousands of Iraqis have lot their lives here because of the occupation. I think Americans need to think about that and realize day to day how difficult life is how terrifying it is for most people to live here every day under the occupation.
Male speaker: Do you have a message for Mr. Bush.
Jill Carroll: (smiles, laughs, and nods her head) Yeah. He needs to stop this war. He knows this war is wrong He knows it was illegal from the very beginning. He knows that it is built on a mountain of lies and I think he needs to finally admit that to the American people and make the troops go home. And he doesn't care about his own people and he doesn't care about the people here in Iraq. He needs to wake up and the people in America need to wake up and tell him what he's done here is wrong so hopefully somehow he'll get the message that this war is wrong, that this continued occupation is wrong. That he can change his policies. It's as dangerous for Iraqis as it is for Americans and he needs to accept it and admit that to the people.
Male speaker: You have said the Mujahideen will win the war against the American army.
Jill Carroll: Oh definitely, definitely. It is very clear to see even now they are already winning every day there are soldiers killed, every day humvees blown up, helicopters are shot down every day, it is very clear the mujahideen have the skills and the ability and the desire and the good reasons to fight and for sure they will win.
Male speaker: What do you feel now that the mujahideen are giving you your freedom while there are still women in Abu Ghraib living in very bad situations.
Jill Carroll: Well, I feel guilty honestly. I've been here, treated very well, like a guest. I've been given good food, never, never hurt while those women are in Abu Ghraib. Terrible things are happening to them with the American soldiers are torturing them and other things I don't want, I can't even say, so I feel guilty and I also feels it shows the difference between the mujahideen and Americans, the mujahideen are merciful and kind that's why I'm free and alive. The American army they aren't. I feel guilty and I also feel that it just shows that mujahideen are good people, fighting an honorable fight, a good fight while the Americans are here as an occupying force treating the people in a very, very bad way so I can't be happy totally for my freedom, there are people still suffering in prisons and very difficult situations.
It shows the difference between the mujahideen and the Americans, it shows the mujahedeen are good people fighting an honourable fight while the Americans are here as an occupying force treating the people in a very bad way
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The Stockholm syndrone
Maybe less voluntary than that.
Look at her eyes. Look and listen how she waits between questions. Notice the spliced clips.
This morning after watching her post-release interview, I couldn't reconcile the pleading, crying woman begging the coalition to submit to the terrorist demands with the woman now telling how very well treated she was.
Maybe this film was her ticket out, and the speed at which the post-release interview was given was the price for someone else's safety.
Maybe we'll know more some time soon.
I'm not ready to tag her a traitor, turn coat, nor fellow traveler. Not yet. Need to know more.
If she really believes what she said, then she will be a leftist mascot even bigger than Cindy Sheehan. She will be able to make speeches at leftist universities for $ six figures a pop. Some American university is waiting to award her with a Doctorate in Islamic Studies.
she knows EXACTLY how lucky she is.
ya, i agree..
If you read the transcript with the analysis both of a captive and of the jhihadis terrorists, it seems so much more likely that this woman reacted this way and said these things because;
1. stockholm syndrome
2. she was threatended to behave a certain way upon release because others are still in danger
3. she did not want to "denounce" the terrorists because she feared their rage would cause them to kill more hostages and she thought perhaps if she did NOT criticize them, they might let others go.
According to a story published at Editor and Publisher:
After questioning Carroll, the off-camera captor read a statement in Arabic in which he announced her release, although it cannot be confirmed when this was done.
"We are releasing this reporter today after the American government agreed to some of our conditions, by releasing some of our women in prison," he said, according to a translation by the Washington-based SITE Institute.
Group That Held Carroll Releases Video Interview With Her--Coerced?
So, now we have a complete transcript.
What were the conditions the American government supposedly agreed to? Only the supposed release of some of the Iraqi women? Was the interview with Baghdad television among those conditions?
I guess they didn't videotape her having her throat cut while held down by three or more kidnappers. Apparently she didn't writhe on the floor while they clumsily saw at the whole throat to complete the beheading. The interminable amount of time that the body makes that awful wheezing, gasping sound while futiley trying to breathe through the horrible medium of torrents of blood. Or the indignity of having a clumsy but clever mujahadin try to balance her head in an upright position on her lifeless corpse.
No, she was treated very, very well.
http://www.lauramansfield.com/j/default.asp
March 30, 2006: Before you hurl those stones...
by Laura Mansfield
The release of American reporter Jill Carroll, kidnapped in January in Iraq, was announced this morning.
Carroll, who was shown in television wearing a Muslim hijab, refused to denounce her kidnappers, and said that she had been treated well by her captors during her captivity.
Almost immediately cries went out on the internet accusing Carroll of being a collaborator and of being "in cahoots" with the thugs who kidnapped her.
I wonder how many of those who have make such accusations have ever met a radical Muslim jihadist, much less been held captive by one?
I suspect the answer is none.
Those who have been around radical Islamists know better than to make such a statement.
Assuming that she was kidnapped by jihadists as opposed to criminal elements, her captors most likely treated her with impeccable politeness, and tried to make sure she was comfortable. As long as Ms. Carroll did not offend their Islamic sensitivies and did not insult Islam, then she would have been treated with traditional Arab-Islamic hospitality. She would not have been offered her freedom, but she would have been treated as well, if not better, than the Iraqi women around her.
She would have been subjected to a regimen of intimidation and verbal abuse on occasions, but those were likely not the normal day to day behavior. Between the episodes of abuse, she was almost certainly treated well by Arab standards.
I do suspect she was subject to a considerable amount of Islamic was well. She would have been told over and over the positive aspects of Islam. I have no doubts that she has heard of all the miracles in the Qu'ran, and of the compassion and brotherhood that is included in the Islamic holy book. Any questions she had about negative elements of Islam would have been quickly debunked.
Islam is a religion of contradictions. Those who follow a strict interpretation of Islam exhibit behaviors that to the rest of the world appear bizarre and full of contradictions. To them, the behaviors make perfect sense.
In fact, "Dr. Jeckyl - Mr. Hyde" behaviors are the norm for radical Islamists, and it provides the perfect cover in many ways.
It doesn't just manifest itself in radical Islamists; many abusers of various nationalities and religions are masters of this technique. It's true that Radical Islam has to a large degree institutionalized and legitimized this abuse. But abuse and terror transcent national, ethnic, and religous boundaries.
When American teenager Elizabeth Smart, kidnapped at 14 years of age, was found alive nearly a year later, many accused her of "running away from home", because of reports that at times during her captivity, she did not take advantage of the opportunity to escape.
Those who make such allegations are ignorant of the power of mind control that is exerted in an abusive relationship, whether the relationship be the result of a kidnapping or something much less newsworthy.
Stockholm Syndrome is very real. No doubt Jill Carroll is suffering from some degree of Stockholm Syndrome.
It would not be surprising to find that she comes out of her captivity with a heightened affection for Islam; that's what she's been spoon-fed for nearly three months.
And I have no doubt that for the most part Jill Carroll was probably treated well by her captors. I would expect that of her radical Islamist captors. That's what Islam has taught them.
Jill Carroll was kidnapped and held hostage for months by terrorists who have shown that they have no hesitation about killing innocents. The death of humanitarian worker Margaret Hassan, and the deaths of countless Iraqi women and children have proven this. She no doubt spent many hours fearing for her life.
We have no way of knowing if her cooperation continues to be coerced. For all we know, the safety of other hostages still held by the terrorists may depend on her continued cooperation. We just don't know.
She does not deserve criticism from those who stayed in their homes watching events unfold on television, or reading about it in the newspaper or on the internet.
Almost every civilization has a maxim advising people to withhold criticism or comment until they have walked a mile in the other person's shoes.
I suggest that those who are critical of Jill Carroll consider that before they begin to hurl stones at her.
Is this for real?
If so it confirms in spades what I have been saying from the beginning this whole thing was a fraud she was in on it from the beginning is a terrorist herself and a likely Moslem convert.
I, too, think it was an anti war activist.
JMO.
I cannot hurl stones at her because I don't really know what happened. But I can say it would take someone extremely hardened to allow their translator to be murdered.
Do you still not see? Lord help us.
It should be the opinion of anyone who has watched this unfold.
I guess not. See what?
Spell it out for me, if you might.
Under normal circumstances, one would probably be correct in saying "Stockholm Syndrome".
But in this case, I think not.
ON the very first day her kidnapping was announced, I said publicly (right here at FR) that it was another setup, just like with that communist party member, Terrorist loving Italian "journalist' last year.
Nothing that has come out since then has persuaded me otherwise, and today's events have only reinforced that opinion.
Here is another time I hope I'm wrong about something.
But unfortunately, I'm almost always right on this kind of thing...
(now if I could only be right about good financial investments occasionally ;-)
What does that do for the next person captured, can we say that the next hostage will be treated well?
She had better repudiate that interview and fast or her credibility as a journalist is destroyed and she will only be able to get work with CNN or the NYT.
Prayers up for the translator who was murdered by her humane and brave captors.
Jill carroll is a Leftist terror sympathizer and always has been she was not kidnapped but was in on this from the beginning. That was obvious from the first tape and is even more obvious today.
See my other posts above.
Being that this is an interview conducted pre-release, I am curious to see if she still holds these views now that she is no longer in terrorist hands.
Now, given that she seemed to held pro-terrorist views before she was kidnapped, I am - and always have been - suspicious of this entire affair. I think we'll find out the truth soon enough.
I need to hear her disavow her statement.
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