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Will Bush Have Been Right All Along?
Human Events ^ | 3/30/06 | David Keene

Posted on 03/30/2006 7:35:18 PM PST by pissant

Democrats who think they will ride to victory in November on a tide of outrage against an ill-conceived war foisted on the American public by a President who spun the intelligence available to justify action against a nation that was no threat to the U.S. may be about to get their comeuppance.

President Bush's critics on the left vehemently reject the President's contention that Iraq's Saddam Hussein was actively collaborating with Osama bin Laden prior to 9/11 as either a fabrication designed to justify the use of military force to unseat the Iraqi dictator or proof that Bush just doesn't understand how the world works. While agreeing that Saddam was no friend, they have argued that there was and is no evidence that he had anything to do with al Qaeda's attacks on the U.S. or that he posed a real or continuing threat either to the U.S. homeland or to our interests in the region.

Their view was buttressed by the conclusion reached by the 9/11 Commission and by our failure to unearth the weapons of mass destruction everyone from the President on down believed our forces would find once they crossed the Iraqi border. In fact, our failure to find these weapons is often almost gleefully cited by Bush's harshest critics as proof that he "lied to the American people" to get us into a war we don’t seem capable of winning.

Some of his critics within what generally been characterized as the neo-conservative community while disagreeing with the left's across the board antipathy to action against Iraq, have nonetheless suggested that the President shouldn’t have relied on either the existence of weapons of mass destruction or the argument that Saddam was somehow part of the al Qaeda conspiracy because, in their view, both are beside the point. Richard Perle, for example, during a recent panel discussion on Iraq scolded the President for even making these arguments. In his view, the President could and should have simply argued that since Hussein was hostile to the United States and ran a tyrannical, undemocratic regime that mistreated innocent Iraqi citizens, we were right to remove him and right to stay in an effort to plant the seeds of democracy in a region that could only benefit from our doing so.

The President's arguments, dependent as they were on intelligence and its analysis, could have been mistaken, but if it is to be assumed that he believed them to be true, they did justify the use of force against the Iraqi regime. It is possible, after all, to be wrong without lying and it wouldn’t be the first time that this nation has acted on the basis of information that has subsequently turned out to be less than persuasive.

The same cannot be said for the neoconservative case for action against Hussein. It is true that Saddam Hussein was hostile to the U.S. and that he was a tyrant. It is even true that the region and its people might well benefit from a dose of democracy, but even though all these things are true none of them individually nor all of them combined would provide sufficient reason to go to war. This justification which is based more on a messianic desire to rebuild the world in our image than in anything even approaching a hard-headed analysis of the sort of threat historically used to justify the use of force by this country, fails on its face.

Consider the implications of the neoconservative arguments. Mr. Mugabe, the crazed ruler of Zimbabwe has made a mockery of democracy in his country, impoverished her citizens and killed his opponents. Zimbabwe is smack in the middle of a region that could certainly benefit from an infusion of democracy and it is unarguably true that a choice between living in Mugabe's Zimbabwe and Hussein’s Iraq would be no choice at all. Still, no one has seriously proposed sending U.S. troops into that unfortunate nation to rescue her citizens from the tyrant who runs the place.

The President's arguments on behalf of the action he took in Iraq are different in that he could still be proved right. It is conceivable that we could still find the weapons everyone thought he had when we went in or that we could find convincing evidence that he had them and either destroyed them or shipped them off to, say, Syria.

What's more, evidence could surface and, indeed, may be surfacing that Hussein wasn't nearly as innocent as Howard Dean and John Kerry would have us believe. After all, it is possible that the 9/11 Commission and not the President was wrong about Saddam and al Qaeda.

That's what at least one member of the commission may now suspect. Nebraska's former Democratic senator, Bob Kerrey, seems to believe that recent revelations could prove that Hussein and bin Laden were, in fact, actively working against U.S. forces in the region in much closer touch than anyone outside the Bush Administration has yet argued.

Kerrey has described the recent revelation of an Iraqi document outlining a 1995 agreement between Hussein and bin Laden to conduct "joint operations" against U.S. forces as "very significant." While Kerrey doesn't seem prepared to believe yet that the documents thus far made public tie Hussein directly to the 9/11 attacks, he says that they "tie him into a circle that meant to damage the United States." He also suggests that as more material comes out, the ties between Hussein and the terrorists who took down the World Trade Center could become much clearer to all.

The folks at MoveOn.org should consider Kerrey's reaction to the document a shot across their bow from a Democrat who believes that the President may be proved right after all and who suspects that the proof could come to light before November's elections.

The Bush Administrations prosecution of the war in Iraq has come under fire from Republican and Democratic critics alike. Some of it has been legitimate and some of it results from the nervousness of politicians facing an election in troubled times, but the Democratic left's arguments against the President could cause a real backlash later this year if, as now seems increasingly likely, evidence comes out making it clear that George W. Bush, and not his opponents, has known what he was talking about all along.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: bush43; davidkeene; gwb; iraq; iraqiintelligence; prewardocs
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To: Protagoras

That's great!!

It will be a race between my 2 YO daughter and your granddaughter for first female Prez.


81 posted on 03/31/2006 9:06:27 AM PST by pissant
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To: pissant
Mine will be the most reviled by the status quo in American History.

She wil do that by setting us free again.

82 posted on 03/31/2006 9:11:49 AM PST by Protagoras (The world is full of successful idiots and genius failures.)
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To: 4woodenboats

well stated


83 posted on 03/31/2006 9:21:52 AM PST by pissant
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To: RedStateRocker
So you are more comfortable with waiting for a mass casualty event and then retalitating, and less comfortable with striking those who would strike us first.

How many dead Americans is your comfort level worth?

84 posted on 03/31/2006 10:11:16 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
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To: pissant

Bush is a great man.


85 posted on 03/31/2006 10:12:56 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: pissant
The "war" in Afghanistan was fought almost entirely with SpecOps and the Muj. The heavy forces weren't operational until after the Towelaban had been toppled.

The amnesty of illegals will finish off the middle class in this country. The pay for manufacturing jobs has lagged well behind inflation under Bush. Most new jobs created during his term are lower paying jobs, Sure there are certain areas where there is good pay but that doesn't help most middle class.

Again, Iraq had no viable WMD program. And I don't care about their internal politics. We have made more terrorists than we killed. I disagree with you about killing terrorists in Iraq. We didn't even fire a shot in the last big op and hundreds were allowed to escape Fallujah before we attacked. I have ex-Marine friends - officers who left the Corps over that one. We pay them to kill people and break things and the politicians let the bad guys get away to back shoot US soldiers. Unforgivable.

ISLAM will never change. My ancestors fought Muslims 1,000 years ago and would be pissed that we haven't finished the job.

Most ME governments that are "fighting" terrorists are only fighting the ones that aren't under their control. A large amount of money still flows from the Royals in Saudi Arabia to scumbags. But they are their scumbags.They talk out of both sides of their mouths.

86 posted on 03/31/2006 10:49:46 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
No. Neither.
Not second guessing the President as (if you read my previous posts he is doing what he perceives to be his job with the best intelligence and tools at his disposal). But do you really think that, in the long run, having an empire that rules the world would not destroy our republic as surely as it did that of Rome?
just wondering; and damn glad *I* don't have to make those decisions.
If we are going to have an empire then let's just be upfront about it (and get on with it), instead of pretending that we are making the world safe for democracy or some such balderdash.
87 posted on 03/31/2006 11:36:55 AM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, ATF and DEA.)
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To: teenyelliott
the moonbats write the history books

They think they do.

88 posted on 03/31/2006 11:38:37 AM PST by RightWhale (Nothing can evolve which has not been involved)
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To: mad_as_he$$
Larry McDonnell, is that you, or did you pick up a copy of DU talking points on the bus on your way over here this morning?
89 posted on 03/31/2006 11:41:52 AM PST by 4woodenboats (The GOP was created by those opposed to Southern Democrat Plantation Slavery...)
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To: pissant

Why aren't you doing Scott McClellen' job?


90 posted on 03/31/2006 2:10:05 PM PST by BARLF
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To: 4woodenboats
Insults advance the discussion nicely, but since you started it. How are things under your rock?
91 posted on 03/31/2006 2:36:30 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: pissant

Well, that one was spelled KAOS.

Mine goes back a little further.

Google "Operation Chaos"


92 posted on 03/31/2006 3:21:12 PM PST by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: pissant
The only thing we or the MSM have ever known for sure about the WMD's is that we do not know where they are PERIOD. Why the left has been allowed to translate don't know where to never existed is baffling. Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth is the operating system they are so
good at. That systems has been infected with a powerful virus, FR and the blogisphere.
93 posted on 03/31/2006 6:10:58 PM PST by SAWTEX
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