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To: clawrence3
"Please cite for me the "wage" paid to African slaves."

Their 'wages' went to their previous owners and their overseers. They also went to their housing, meals, etc. Modern-day slavery has eliminated the initial outlay for purchasing and transporting your slaves. They now come to you. The elimination of this initially large outlay has opened the doors for smaller businesses to take advantage of modern slavery. No longer are the financial resources of a large plantation required to finance purchasing of new laborers when you've worked the old ones to death. Overhead such as housing and overseers has also been eliminated. Slaves now 'care' for themselves, finding small shelters where they pack as many of themselves inside as possible for shelter from the elements so they can save drastically on housing costs. This also gives modern day slave owners the formerly unheard of ability (under the old pre-1860s slavery) to trade in their weaker, sick, or lazy slaves for new ones who've just arrived at no expense. This then allows modern-day slave owners to split up the money that would have otherwise been spent on these ongoing expenses to pay ridiculously small 'wages' to their slaves, who then send much of that money home to keep their families alive.

And that, folks, is the replacement for the whip-wielding overseer: work for me, as long and hard as I tell you, for whatever I feel like paying you, or your family will starve. In some ways, modern slavery is worse than what we abolished 150 years ago.
194 posted on 03/30/2006 7:08:51 PM PST by NJ_gent (Modernman should not have been banned.)
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To: NJ_gent
And that, folks, is the replacement for the whip-wielding overseer: work for me, as long and hard as I tell you, for whatever I feel like paying you, or your family will starve. In some ways, modern slavery is worse than what we abolished 150 years ago.

You're friggin' nuts!

None of these illegals is forced to stay here.

The truth is, whatever they're making here is likely three or four times more than they were paid in Mexico.

Which is why they've come in the first place.

Comparing this to slavery is pure demagoguery.

226 posted on 03/30/2006 7:24:06 PM PST by sinkspur (Things are about to happen that will answer all your questions and solve all your problems.)
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To: NJ_gent

Basically the decline is incredible in some places. My family owned a lighting store back in the mid 70's. Minimum wage was 4$ an hour, but my father paid the workers 7$ an hour.

Back then a nice apartment was 160$ a month. Today literally the same apartment is 800-1000$. And the people working at home depot selling lights make maybe 9 or 10$ an hour.

So 100 hours to pay the rent today. And even if you take the 4$ an hour wage in the mid-70's.. it was 40 hours of work to pay the rent!

And that is with 30 years of productivity increases...


281 posted on 03/30/2006 7:45:13 PM PST by ran15
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