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Bloomberg Has Nothing but Harsh Words for a Gun Bill Before Congress
NY Times ^ | March 29, 2006 | SEWELL CHAN

Posted on 03/29/2006 7:35:21 PM PST by neverdem

WASHINGTON, March 28 —Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg bluntly told a Congressional panel on Tuesday that a "god-awful piece of legislation" before the House of Representatives would cripple the city's ability to combat gun trafficking and "result in the shooting deaths of innocent people."

The mayor's testimony, before members of the House Judiciary Committee, was unusual not only for its vivid language, but also because Mr. Bloomberg, a Republican, was testifying at the request of the Democratic minority on the panel. The mayor has made taking on the gun industry a central theme of his second term, and has repeatedly used his bully pulpit to draw national attention to the issue.

The bill in question would prohibit disclosure of any records from a national gun-trace database in civil lawsuits and allow the records to be released only "in a bona fide criminal investigation or prosecution." The data, maintained by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, includes the sales history of guns that law...

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As a result of the lawsuit, the city has received gun-trace data from 1998 to 2003, but it has been unable to get more recent records because of four amendments that have been inserted into yearly appropriations bills since 2003. The bill, introduced on March 16 by Representative Lamar Smith, a Texas Republican, would essentially make the amendments permanent.

Mr. Bloomberg told the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism and Homeland Security that illegal guns were used in 300 of the 540 homicides in the city last year, and that 82 percent of the guns used in crimes in the city were bought outside the state. He also cited a 2000 report showing that 57.4 percent of firearms traced by law enforcement to gun dealers in 1998 were sold by 1.2 percent of licensed retailers and pawnbrokers.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: New York; War on Terror
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To: neverdem
Thanks for the post.
Just think if this time and energy were spent on dealing with all the illegal immigrants breaking the law by crossing our borders!
21 posted on 03/29/2006 9:49:05 PM PST by jan in Colorado (Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum (If you wish for peace, prepare for war.))
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To: durasell
Guns aren't a factor in NYC. They are neither part of the culture nor the culture of those raised in the city.

Where did you grow up, and when were you born?

22 posted on 03/29/2006 9:58:58 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

I'm still growing up, though in advancing years. From the city...


23 posted on 03/29/2006 10:05:51 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: durasell
I'm still growing up, though in advancing years. From the city...

You forgot to answer when you were born. Let me guess? You're a lady who never went to a range, let alone the West Side Rifle & Pistol Club at 20 W. 20th St. in Manhattan.

24 posted on 03/29/2006 10:15:58 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

But to answer what I think is your question -- guns really aren't a part of the city's cultural make-up. They are eschewed by a large portion of the city's residents. The range down by Wall Street basically closed up for lack of business. Holland&Holland and Beretta both have showrooms that cater to the "carriage trade," but aren't what you would call bustling. And, there are a few dealers (aside from those catering to NYPD) tucked away on some second and third story shops on Madison Avenue or out in Queens, Brooklyn, etc.

Although there are a bunch of folks out in Brooklyn/Queens who hunt regularly, there isn't the same emphasis on firearms in NYC as there is in Texas or even Pennyslvania. That is to say, you won't find guns displayed in a livingroom or den. They are more than likely to be tucked away in a basement or closet. The few exceptions to this, of course, are the high end collectors who invest several million in their antique arsenals.


25 posted on 03/29/2006 10:17:52 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: neverdem

I went to the range downtown when it was open. didn't care for it. don't care for the West Side range, either.


26 posted on 03/29/2006 10:21:43 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: Fido969
Bring back Rudi.

Yeah, right! He's as bad on guns as Bloomberg.

27 posted on 03/30/2006 2:51:30 AM PST by P8riot (Happiness, is a crew served weapon.)
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To: durasell
The vast majority of folks simply don't own guns and have no particular desire to own one.

Man, you city folks is weird. Most of y'all probably don't own no bass boat neither. :-)

28 posted on 03/30/2006 5:23:36 AM PST by RogueIsland (.)
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To: neverdem
Bloomie is an anti-gun zealot. He has never never met a gun he hasn't liked to see banned.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

29 posted on 03/30/2006 5:25:30 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: RogueIsland

That's true, but we can all name 397 different varieties of cheese.


30 posted on 03/30/2006 5:25:54 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: neverdem

In before the ping.


31 posted on 03/30/2006 5:57:11 AM PST by Clemenza (I Just Wasn't Made for These Times)
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To: neverdem
and to this day, I have yet to hear mandatory sentencing for crimes using a firearm. I hear it for drugs but NOT for illegal use of firearms.

Why don't these "politicians" lobby for a harsh sentencing

- rob a store with a gun 10 yrs.
- shoot a person with a gun while committing a crime 20 yrs.
- kill a person with a gun while committing a crime, life
32 posted on 03/30/2006 6:06:53 AM PST by Coleus (What were Ted Kennedy & his nephew doing on Good Friday, 1991? Getting drunk and raping women)
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To: neverdem

Bloomburg is an obnoxious little New York pansey who is no more a Republican than an illegal invader is an immigrant.


33 posted on 03/30/2006 6:11:17 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: durasell
Well, the opinion of the masses doesn't mean sheee-ite when it comes to the Bill of Rights. Bloomie can put a sock in it.

Of course, retired LEOs and political contributors can get a concealed weapons permit, while serfs are denied. Another good reason to live in Connecticut.

34 posted on 03/30/2006 6:17:07 AM PST by Clemenza (I Just Wasn't Made for These Times)
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To: Clemenza

C'mon, the guy hit on a "safe" issue that doesn't seem to have a chance of going anywhere.


35 posted on 03/30/2006 6:20:11 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: durasell

Why waste time with this issue? Why not address the fact that the R train continues to operate at peak capacity, yet TAKES FOREVER to show up at 59th street in Brooklyn going south? Why not address the fact that there are too many damn sushi restaurants, even in Brooklyn. Why not address the fact that Arabs and Mexicans should be banned from making pizza, yadda, yadda, yadda...


36 posted on 03/30/2006 6:22:44 AM PST by Clemenza (I Just Wasn't Made for These Times)
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To: Clemenza

PIZZA BY PISANOS ONLY!

My take on this thing is that he feels the city is running reasonably well and wants a 'BIG ISSUE' he can trot out a couple times a year. The PBA likes it, the Upper West Side likes it, everything he needs to know is on a single sheet of paper. And, best of all, there doesn't need to be any movement on the issue.


37 posted on 03/30/2006 6:28:05 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: durasell

In any event, look to see me back in town around April 27th. You will likely pass me by not knowing who I am...


38 posted on 03/30/2006 6:29:43 AM PST by Clemenza (I Just Wasn't Made for These Times)
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To: durasell
That's true, but we can all name 397 different varieties of cheese.

They's only two, silly: yella cheese and that cheese what got the holes in it.

39 posted on 03/30/2006 6:32:31 AM PST by RogueIsland (.)
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To: Clemenza

Ha! Welcome back then...

BTW, you're the second guy I know who complained about the declining quality of the pizza. Frankly, I haven't noticed, but something may be going on...


40 posted on 03/30/2006 6:32:54 AM PST by durasell (!)
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