"This War is for Real! An Air Force General Speaks

Email forward | NA | MG Vernon Chong, USAFR

[dvan]

I had no idea who General Chong is or the source of these thoughts... so when I received them, I almost deleted them - as well-written as they are. But then I did a "Google search" on the General and found him to be a retired Air Force Surgeon of all things and past Commander of Wilford Hall Medical Center in San Antonio. So he is real, is connected to Veterans affairs, and these are his thoughts. They are worth reading and thinking about!! (the same Google search will direct you to some of his other thought-provoking writings.)

[EagleUSA]

He reiterates the real problem exactly as it is...of course the radical libs will say he is nuts -- there is no terrorist threat and that 9/11 was staged....etc,etc,etc.

[Darkwolf377]

Food for thought for the "Throw the Republicans out, that'll teach 'em!" fair-weather Republicans around here. Play games with who is in charge of this country's security at your peril.

[caisson71]

This is one of the best explanations and justifications on our WOT. I have seen a number of his points explained by several people in several places but this is really good.
Why don't we see guys like this on the 24/7 talk shows or read in the MSM? I don't ever remember seeing/hearing General Chong on FOX. All we get from everyone is the SOS.

[ex-snook]

Serious threat? Maybe when the author tells us we are going to draft some 15,000,000 people, ration gas, sell War Bonds and Rosie the Riveter is going to work in the war production factories.

[rbg81]

Excellent post. Paradoxically, one strength of this enemy is that everyone assumes them to be weak. Yes, they are weak in the weapons of war, but are not hobbled by political correctness as we are. The conventional wisdom is that we will win the GWOT. Unforunately, the conventional wisdom is often wrong.

[ChessExpert]

This has been posted before:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1523118/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1509781/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1507945/posts

Still a good post.

Perhaps it's nitpicking but the statement:
"Hitler (who was also Christian)"
seems very doubtful to me. One could call Engels Christian, or Marx Jewish, but both were atheists. Family origin or early upbringing are very poor guides on faith in the 20th century. I very much doubt that Hitler was a sincere Christian.

[tet68]

When someone declares that they are at war with you, it's
too late to be diplomatic.

He is partially right, our major problem is that the nation
doesn't recognize that there is a war on, a few of us to be sure have seen it over time and it comes as no surprise to us but at least half of America won't or can't admit it to
themselves, and of course there is a large percentage that
are just oblivious to anything beyond themselves.

We, WE will have to make up for the ignorance and blind
wishful thinking of all those, we must prepare for what is
coming and we MUST DO IT FASTER! Events are breaking with
increasing frequency, WE MUST LEAD AND BE READY TO LEAD when
the situation demands it.

The lesson of France has been learned by the anarchist youth
of our own country, one has only to watch the news to be
aware of it, we can look forward to more of the same.

We suffer now from illegal immigration, look at Germany
and France and see how the "Guest Worker" is destroying
the demographics of Europe.
We don't want or need "Guest Workers" we want people who
WANT to BE AMERICANS.

It's time we closed our southern border, either that or make Mexico a state and run it under our constitution.

/rant

[karnage]

Hitler's mother was a devout Catholic, and he was raised in the Church, but he came to loathe and detest the religion because of its "meekness." He wanted to return Germany to a pre-Christian pagan state.

[Chode]

all the Goathumpers declaired war against us in all the newspapers of the world twenty years ago... we had, for what ever reason, elected not to engage.

now there's no option but victory.

[CyberAnt]

I could not agree more and I have been arguing the same with many of them. You are only the 2nd person who has acknowled to me they don't agree with not voting in November.

However, most of the "fair-weather repubs" are not even repubs at all but the left-over McCainiacs and GO Pat GO people.

[Dan(9698)]

Hitler was a Socialist.

His religion was the National Socialist Party or NAZIS

[Doctor Raoul]

They always forget the pickup truck bomb that killed six Americans at the Army's PM SANG offices 6-9 months proir to Khobar.

[ChessExpert]

"Hitler's mother was a devout Catholic, and he was raised in the Church, but he came to loathe and detest the religion because of its "meekness." He wanted to return Germany to a pre-Christian pagan state."

Thanks! I was curious about that.

I read once that he had a low opinion of Christians, that he perceived them as an offshoot of the Jewish race.

[jec41]

Hitler's religious beliefs and fanaticism

(Selected quotes from Mein Kampf)

compiled by Jim Walker

Originated: 28 Nov. 1996
Additions made: 07 July 2001

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People often make the claim that Adolph Hitler adhered to Atheism, Humanism or some ancient Nordic pagan mythology. None of these fanciful and wrong ideas hold. Although one of Hitler's henchmen, Alfred Rosenberg, did undertake a campaign of Nordic mythological propaganda, Hitler and most of his henchmen did not believe in it .

Many American books, television documentaries, and Sunday sermons that preach of Hitler's "evil" have eliminated Hitler's god for their Christian audiences, but one only has to read from his own writings to appreciate that Hitler's God equals the same God of the Christian Bible. Hitler held many hysterical beliefs which not only include, God and Providence but also Fate, Social Darwinism, and ideological politics. He spoke, unashamedly, about God, fanaticism, idealism, dogma, and the power of propaganda. Hitler held strong faith in all his convictions. He justified his fight for the German people and against Jews by using Godly and Biblical reasoning. Indeed, one of his most revealing statements makes this quite clear:

"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."

Although Hitler did not practice religion in a churchly sense, he certainly believed in the Bible's God. Raised as Catholic he went to a monastery school and, interestingly, walked everyday past a stone arch which was carved the monastery's coat of arms which included a swastika. As a young boy, Hitler's most ardent goal was to become a priest. Much of his philosophy came from the Bible, and more influentially, from the Christian Social movement. (The German Christian Social movement, remarkably, resembles the Christian Right movement in America today.) Many have questioned Hitler's stand on Christianity. Although he fought against certain Catholic priests who opposed him for political reasons, his belief in God and country never left him. Many Christians throughout history have opposed Christian priests for various reasons; this does not necessarily make one against one's own Christian beliefs. Nor did the Vatican's Pope & bishops ever disown him; in fact they blessed him! As evidence to his claimed Christianity, he said:

"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.

-Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)

Hitler's anti-Semitism grew out of his Christian education. Christian Austria and Germany in his time took for granted the belief that Jews held an inferior status to Aryan Christians. Jewish hatred did not spring from Hitler, it came from the preaching of Catholic priests and Protestant ministers throughout Germany for hundreds of years. The Protestant leader, Martin Luther, himself, held a livid hatred for Jews and their Jewish religion. In his book, "On the Jews and their Lies," Luther set the standard for Jewish hatred in Protestant Germany up until World War II. Hitler expressed a great admiration for Martin Luther.

Hitler did not have to parade his belief in God, as so many American Christians do now. Nor did he have to justify his Godly belief against an Atheist movement. He took his beliefs for granted just as most Germans did at that time. His thrust aimed at politics, not religion. But through his political and religious reasoning he established in 1933, a German Reich Christian Church, uniting the Protestant churches to instill faith in a national German Christianity.

Future generations should remember that Adolph Hitler could not have come into power without the support of the Protestant and Catholic churches and the German Christian populace.

The following quotes provides some of Hitler's expressions of his belief in religion, faith, fanaticism, Providence, and even a few of his paraphrasing of the Bible. It by no means represents the totality of Hitler's concerns. To realize the full context of these quotes, I implore the reader to study Mein Kampf.

The purpose of this text intends to dispute the claims made by Christians that Hitler "was an atheist," or "anti-religious," and to reveal the dangers of belief-systems. This text in no way attempts to give endorsement to anti-Semitism.

[Eagles6]

bttt

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

Adolph Hitler was not the only other to claim one thing and actually advocate another.

Aleister Crowley, who openly supported the National Socialists, was affiliated with Ordo Templi Orientis, A.A. (Order of the Silver Star) and other such occult lodges all across Germany.

Crowley's books also use names of divinity but advocate devil worship...

Crowley engaged in all manner of deviancy, homoeroticism, sadomasochism and murder. Much of the occultism in National Socialism is derived directly from there. Crowley envisioned himself as the Great Beast (To Mega Therion), just as der Fuhrer made himself in that image. Hitler's life as a struggling, inept artist was where that association blossomed.

Crowley's creed, "Do what thou wilt, shall be the whole of the Law," (which is actually from Francois Rabelais) and used by Neo-Pagan nutcases without attribution for obvious politically correct reasons, is with certainty no different than the National Socialist "will to power," or their ubermensch mentality.

It is also no accident Nietzsche's "over-man" and nihilist philosophy and resulting insanity from venereal disease closely mirrors the insanity of der Fuhrer.

These occult orders, sex and drug cults still survive today, as do the Neo-pagan, Neo-Nazi groups, black supremacist Rastafarian potheads, prison gangs and other related filth.

Crowley occultism is also from where L. Ron Hubbard emerges with Scientology. Note the NAZI symbolism of that kooky cult of weirdos and their deviant adherents. (Ask yourself why Germany was really cracking down hard on Scientology.)

If you believe for one second anything Hitler wrote or said, you are as seriously deluded as the German people were...

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

see #16...

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

see #16... oops.. #17...

[jec41]

If you believe for one second anything Hitler wrote or said, you are as seriously deluded as the German people were...

And if you believed everything supposed by your post without some verification of statements or fact you are deluded. Selected quotes from Mein Kampf are Hitlers own words not a rant or supposition. He established a Unified Christian church in Germany. His followers were mostly Christian. Germany was neither a atheist or Muslim country.