Boehner hints a back down on 'amnesty'

The Washington Times ^ | March 29, 2006 | Charles hurt

[surely_you_jest]

House Majority Leader John A. Boehner refused yesterday to rule out compromising with the Senate to expand the House border security bill to include a guest-worker program or provisions that opponents call "amnesty." "Let's wait and see what the Senate can produce," he told reporters yesterday when asked whether House Republicans would reject the Senate Judiciary Committee's proposal to allow the estimated 12 million illegal aliens now in the U.S. to seek citizenship after paying a fine.

[deltabravo]

"The president cited a 66 percent increase in border-security funding since he took office, along with a 42 percent increase in interior-enforcement spending and a total of 6 million illegal aliens caught and returned home."

I think they missed a few.

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How many more times are you gonna spam this thread with the same post? We caught it the first time.

[Coop]

Do they deliver to bunkers?

[Dane]

What has changed is that there are overwhelming numbers of people, noncitizens, who will do that work while being paid off the books, who have no means of taxpayer identification, and there are employers who are willing to prostitute themselves and break the law right along with them to save a few bucks. And, these noncitizens are getting medical treatment at no charge. There are very few US citizens willing or even able to potentially go up against the IRS and state tax collectors, for a severly depressed wage, with no benefits whatsoever.

Really then why do jobs at resorts go begging every summer and those resorts have to recruit from foreign countries to fill the jobs.

Paramount’s Kings Island amusement park in Cincinnati, struggling to cope with a tri-state labor shortage, hired up to 300 European college students to staff its peak summer months. Another 200 workers were imported from other US cities. To accommodate its new recruits, the amusement park leased a University of Cincinnati dormitory and signed a $150,000 contract with Metro to provide expanded bus service to the park. Park officials say, “We’re going to have to be more creative in finding workers.” Importing foreign workers may seem novel in Cincinnati but it is a common practice in the amusement park industry. “I’m aware of a half-dozen or so facilities across the United States that have brought in foreign employees and put them up in a dorm room or hotel rooms,” said Joel Cliff, a spokesman for the International Association of Amusement Parks & Attractions. The biggest problem facing the amusement industry in the next decade is the shrinking labor force among high school and college-age students. Cedar Point amusement park in Sandusky OH has on-site dormitories that can accommodate up to 3000 workers. Casino Pier and Water Park in Seaside Heights NJ has hired students from Ireland since the 1980s. And Paramount’s King’s Dominion, a sister park to Kings Island, housed 250 Europeans in dorms at Virginia Commonwealth University. Not only is this a problem in the United States, it’s a problem in England and France; they are hiring employees from other countries too.

[Coop]

I applaud you for your patience! :-)

[Do not dub me shapka broham]

Why stop there?

Why should we limit ourselves to repealing the Wagner Act and abolishing the minimum wage?

Why not rescind the 13th Amendment and reinstitute chattel slavery?

After all, I'm sure that the big-wigs in corporate America would love that.

Huge Agri-businesses already have the right idea, dragging agriculture back to the 19th century with workers who are essentially indentured servants.

Harvest of shame?

No way!

Harvest of hope!

Edward R. Murrow was totally off-course to think that people shouldn't be sharecroppers in the 20th century.

Back to the future, right Dane?

[Indy Pendance]

Yep, and the newbies keep coming. I don't mind thoughtful newbs, it's the over the top zealots who post on their kook message boards, and come here trolling. What's happened to the oldtimers? Not to many posting lately, FR has been taken over by kooks.

[Beagle8U]

"That's odd. 20-30 million of these "workers" in the country and not enough of them to pull it off? Just how many pickers do we need to import?"

The problem IMO is that they branched out into construction trades and easier jobs like restaurant work.

Some are just gang bangers selling drugs.

Those are the ones that need deporting.

The migrant workers that have been coming for years in the spring for field work, left in the fall and were never much of a problem.

Damn few people will do that field work, its back breaking.

The ones that stay in the winter find other easier jobs that pay as well or more, then they don't go back to field work.

Guest workers should only be seasonal workers in the fields.

[NapkinUser]

"President Bush Builds 12 ft Tall Steel Fence Along Mexican Border From The Pacific Into Arizona, Plus Around Major Populated Areas In Arizona and Texas"

Was this before or after Bush called the house bill's 700 mile long border fence "impractical"?

[Dane]

You look strictly at business results, through the eyes of the most amoral brand of capitalism.

Dennis Kuccinich is that you?

Other people are concerned with national sovereignty, national security, and whether or not we'll be living in a 3rd world nation in 50 years

Uh if you hadn't noticed all the outside interference GM had to deal with the last 50 years turned them into a 3rd world company and they didn't even hire illegals.

[Indy Pendance]

Can't have facts, that post should be removed.

[Coop]

How many more times are you gonna spam this thread with the same post?

So that's the thanks Southack gets trying to educate you militia wanna-be's? And you wonder why I'm a wee bit sarcastic and mocking? ROTFLMAO!!

[Liberator]

"Do they deliver to bunkers?"

Come on. Say something funnier, Mr. Punching-Bag.

[Junior_G]

Why not rescind the 13th Amendment and reinstitute chattel slavery?

Wow, good point. Dane, just think of the boost that would give your stock portfolio!

[Indy Pendance]

Got facts?

[Mr. Mojo]

He'll back on his feet in a moment.

Maybe not.

Remember the Hearns vs. Duran fight? "Manos de Piedra" fell like a stone. .....brutal KO.

[NapkinUser]

"Yes, you are misinformed."

Great dodge.

[Coop]

What's happened to the oldtimers?

I still see the thoughtful ones from time to time. Not nearly often enough, though.

[Dane]

Wow, quoting Edward R. Murrow now. Communist extrodianaire.

[Do not dub me shapka broham]

The only problem is that "guest" workers are a fiction.

There is no such thing as a successful guest-worker/bracero program, i.e. they come here to work, and when the work is completed they return to their country of origin.

It's not that Americans can't or won't do this type of work, but that they won't do this work for pathetic wages.

Yes, there are probably some jobs that are obselescent, which is why they should be automated.

That's what would happen if there weren't an unending glut of cheap foreign labor to rely upon.