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Turkey To Buy 100 Fighter Jets
DefenseTalk.com ^

Posted on 03/28/2006 10:45:32 PM PST by DTAD

NATO member Turkey plans to buy 100 new-generation combat aircraft under a $10 billion (8.3 billion euro) project over the next 20 years, Anatolia news agency quoted a senior official as saying March 28.

By the end of the year, Ankara will make a choice between the U.S. F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, whose construction is led by Lockheed Martin, and the Eurofighter, being built by a European consortium, the head of the defense industries undersecretariat, Murad Bayar, said in Washington.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airforce; armsbuildup; eurofighter; fighterjet; jsf; turkey
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It may very well by Eurofighter even though JSF would be a good fit for TAF. Maybe they will observe what Greeks will go for... ?
1 posted on 03/28/2006 10:45:35 PM PST by DTAD
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To: DTAD

Do we really want Turkey to have the JSF?


2 posted on 03/28/2006 10:48:05 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Echo Talon

For use against Israel? Or Greece?


3 posted on 03/28/2006 10:49:39 PM PST by Lewite (Praise YAHWEH and Proclaim His Wonderful Name, His Son Yahshua Messiah is coming soon!)
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To: Lewite

They are in NATO, hopefully they won't use it against either of them. :D but ya never know. Probably more of defense against Iran?


4 posted on 03/28/2006 10:55:33 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Echo Talon

I think they should buy the Eurofighter. It's a real honey. Yeah, that's the ticket.


5 posted on 03/28/2006 10:56:08 PM PST by claudiustg (Delenda est Iran!)
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To: Lewite

My first guess would be their infidel enemy Greece reference the fight for Cyprus.

These new aircraft will probably resume the bombing of Nicosia in the name of Allah.

Bunch of savage Mohammedan B@st@rds.


6 posted on 03/28/2006 10:57:29 PM PST by Emmet Fitzhume ("It is better to be alone than in bad company.")
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To: Lewite
Turkey Disputes - international:

complex maritime, air, and territorial disputes with Greece in the Aegean Sea; status of north Cyprus question remains; Syria and Iraq protest Turkish hydrological projects to control upper Euphrates waters; Turkey has expressed concern over the status of Kurds in Iraq; border with Armenia remains closed over Nagorno-Karabakh

Illicit drugs:

key transit route for Southwest Asian heroin to Western Europe and - to a far lesser extent the US - via air, land, and sea routes; major Turkish, Iranian, and other international trafficking organizations operate out of Istanbul; laboratories to convert imported morphine base into heroin are in remote regions of Turkey as well as near Istanbul; government maintains strict controls over areas of legal opium poppy cultivation and output of poppy straw concentrate Turkey WorldFact Book

7 posted on 03/28/2006 11:01:17 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: DTAD
Turkey will go Eurofighter.

It has to.

While relations with the U.S. were more important with the USSR breathing down its neck, the USSR is no longer.

...and more importantly, Turkey desires entry into the EU, and has been getting the stiff arm preventing her entry. They'll bargain the Eurofighter purchase in exchange for EU membership.

The US will find it tough to match that offer. We don't have anything equivalent to offer.

8 posted on 03/28/2006 11:12:10 PM PST by sauron ("Truth is hate to those who hate Truth" --unknown)
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To: DTAD

The Eurofighter is the only aircraft ever designed for midair surrender...


9 posted on 03/28/2006 11:13:40 PM PST by thoughtomator (Pacifism is objectively pro-terrorist; Amnesty for illegals is objectively anti-American)
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To: Emmet Fitzhume; Lewite
Againt Israel? Doubt it.

Against Greece? Don't care. Both Greece and Turkey are filled with America haters. Never understood why so many on this site love the Greeceballs so much.

Turkey is a member of NATO.

10 posted on 03/28/2006 11:14:41 PM PST by Clemenza (I Just Wasn't Made for These Times)
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To: Clemenza

Oh, they are members of NATO.

But that changes little regarding Turkey's ethnic cleansing (IE destruction of all things non-Muslim) during their invasion of Cyprus in 1974.

Say nothing of the Armenian genocide; The Mohammedans do not need more firepower.


11 posted on 03/28/2006 11:27:56 PM PST by Emmet Fitzhume ("It is better to be alone than in bad company.")
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To: Emmet Fitzhume
Maybe because the clerical FASCIST Archbishop Makarios all but claimed Cyprus as a Greek state. Turkey's invasion was justified and was recognized as such by the Nixon and Ford administrations.

Turkey's government was secular. It was the clerical fascists of the Eastern Orthodox Church that caused the invasion.

12 posted on 03/28/2006 11:55:36 PM PST by Clemenza (I Just Wasn't Made for These Times)
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To: Clemenza

They gave us the Olympics, Saganaki, and Ouzo, they cant be all bad.
Ops4 God Bless America!


13 posted on 03/28/2006 11:58:31 PM PST by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!)
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To: OPS4
And Melina Mecouri. Too bad she was an America-hating leftist.

Both the Greeks and the Turks have their fine points, as well as their negatives. I still believe, however, that the Turks were more than justified in invading Cyprus.

14 posted on 03/29/2006 12:00:31 AM PST by Clemenza (I Just Wasn't Made for These Times)
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To: Clemenza

So that makes the Turkish ethnic cleansing okay then.

Afterall, bombing entire cities (such as Nicosia) justifies the actions taken by Makarios?

The UN condemned the invasion, you know.

In 1976 and again in 1983 the European Commission of Human Rights found Turkey guilty of repeated violations of the European Convention of Human Rights.

The European Commission of Human Rights reports of 1976 and 1983 state the following:

"Having found violations of a number of Articles of the Convention, the Commission notes that the acts violating the Convention were exclusively directed against members of one of two communities in Cyprus, namely the Greek Cypriot community. It concludes by eleven votes to three that Turkey has thus failed to secure the rights and freedoms set forth in these Articles without discrimination on the grounds of ethnic origin, race, religion as required by Article 14 of the Convention."

The 20,000 Greek Cypriots who were enclaved in the occupied Karpass Peninsula in 1975 were subjected by the Turks to violations of their human rights so that by 2001 when the European Court of Human Rights found Turkey guilty of the violation of 14 articles of the European Convention of Human Rights in its judgment of Cyprus v. Turkey (application no. 25781/94) less than 600 still remained. In the same judgment Turkey was found guilty of violating the rights of the Turkish Cypriots by authorising the trial of civilians by a military court.

Since the Turkish invasion over 120,000 Turks have been brought to the north from Anatolia in violation of Article 49 of the Geneva Convention, to occupy the homes of the Greek Cypriot refugees.

Try reading your history before taking sides with the sons of Mohammed.

After Turkey's invasion of Cyprus all but 5 of the 500 Greek Orthodox Churches were looted, desecrated, or destroyed.

Treasures from looted Cypriot churches appeared on the international black art market including the much publicised Kanakaria mosaics.

Keep on supporting the Mohammedans, professor.


15 posted on 03/29/2006 12:07:06 AM PST by Emmet Fitzhume ("It is better to be alone than in bad company.")
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To: Clemenza

"I still believe, however, that the Turks were more than justified in invading Cyprus."

You voted for Kerry, didn't you?


16 posted on 03/29/2006 12:08:00 AM PST by Emmet Fitzhume ("It is better to be alone than in bad company.")
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To: Emmet Fitzhume
You accuse me of being a lefty when you quote the Euro-peon Human Rights Commission? Could it be that Turkey was the only country in the 1970s with the balls to take on the Communist threat within their country?

Of course, the Greeks had active Communists in the government both before and after the Colonels coup. Something you seem to forget.

17 posted on 03/29/2006 12:10:40 AM PST by Clemenza (I Just Wasn't Made for These Times)
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To: Clemenza

"You accuse me of being a lefty when you quote the Euro-peon Human Rights Commission?"

Why waste time arguing with me when you could be focusing more energy on a nation responsible for the unnecessary destruction of 500 Christian churches?

"Could it be that Turkey was the only country in the 1970s with the balls to take on the Communist threat within their country?"

Soviet Communism was completely incompatible with Islam. However, both parties share an interest in totalitarian fascism.

"Of course, the Greeks had active Communists in the government both before and after the Colonels coup. Something you seem to forget."

This does not change the fact that Turks senselessly killed and arrested Greek civilians who had nothing to do with the conflict brought by Makarios.

Say nothing of the burned and looted churches, atheist.


18 posted on 03/29/2006 12:18:08 AM PST by Emmet Fitzhume ("It is better to be alone than in bad company.")
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To: DTAD

Which side are they on?


19 posted on 03/29/2006 12:19:30 AM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: Emmet Fitzhume
Again:

1. The Turkish government in the 1960s and 1970s was vehemently anti-Communist and anti-Islamist. Just ask the members of the brotherhood or the Communist Kurdish workers movement.

2. Those Churces were collateral damage. Many of them had been abandoned for decades.

3. In a just world, Archbishop Makarios should have seen the short end of a rope. He brought war between two NATO members at a time when the Soviets were expanding their influence in the Balkans (despite "detente").

I'll take Nixon, Ford, and Kissinger's view on the situation over the Euro-peon commission or the UN anyday.

20 posted on 03/29/2006 12:22:02 AM PST by Clemenza (I Just Wasn't Made for These Times)
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