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"The dumbest people I meet are in academia. Totally clueless to the real world."

Being as smart as you are, I wonder why you find yourself in the minority on this issue. I mean, if you red meat America Firsters represented more than about 20% of the voting public, how is it that you lost this issue in the Senate? How is it that people like John Kerry and Hillary Clinton even have a ghost of a chance of winning the White House?

As far as being in the "real world," I'll hold my "real world" experience up to yours anytime, pal.

Why don't you come down to the Bronx, N.Y. where I am and tell me about the real world.

I don't want to hear about sebaticals and other trips you have taken, I am talking street level stuff as to what is really going on.

Until you have been around this scam on the street level, you have no clue about what is going on.

"how is it that you lost this issue in the Senate?"

Errm, I assume that when you say 'Senate', you actually mean to say 'Senate Judiciary Committee, one small part of the overall Senate', right? The Senate must still vote on whether to proceed with the majority leader's bill or the Judiciary Committee's bill, and then must decide what, if any amendments and modifications will be attached to it. Then, after all that is said and done, if the Senate votes to pass the bill, members of the House (where a reasonably strong bill passed) and Senate will need to sit down together to hammer out differences between the two versions.

Being as you're already at a university, you can stroll down to wherever the law professors hang out and I'm sure they'll be happy to explain the whole thing to you.

By the way, did anyone catch Ted Kennedy singing praises for the President? If nothing else, that alone told me everything I needed to know about this mess.