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RNC Memo Warns GOPers Not To Distance Themselves From Bush
The Hotline (National Journal) ^ | March 28, 2006

Posted on 03/28/2006 7:52:53 PM PST by Karl Rand

Republican pollster Jan van Lohuizen, in a memo written for RNC chairman Ken Mehlman, warns that if members of Congress try to drive a wedge between themselves and Pres. Bush, it'd be akin to adding weight to an anchor. GOpers are "W Brand Republicans" whether they like it or not. And van Louhizen, who has polled (often secretly) for the Bush White House under the RNC aegis for years, is worried about low turnout.

Time Magazine first reported on the memo this weekend, but the full text is below.

(Excerpt) Read more at hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; albatross; branded; bush; bushrobusteza; congressbots; howlinandherbushbots; lockstep; partysuicide; rnc; wbrand; wbrandmadeinmexico
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To: fallujah-nuker

If the QB on your team was running the wrong way it would make sense to tackle him rather than block for him.




That's how I see it. I will NEVER vote dem. But I am done voting for open borders a--holes that put mexicans before Americans.


321 posted on 03/28/2006 10:00:34 PM PST by trubluolyguy (Fences don't work? Better take down the one around the White house.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Well, it's not quite that easy either. When our local produce is no longer competitive with imports, our growers are simply out of business. The wholesalers aren't going to pay the prices. So it's just one more industry lost for America. The answer might be technology but that takes time too. There are no simple answers to this problem.

Jim, I'm a farmer (among other things, at the moment). If we have leaders who are willing to allow the nation's food supply to be sold to the lowest bidder (and trust me, we fight that EVERY DAY)..well, then we are really sunk.

A safe and stable food supply is an absolute necessity for any nation.

322 posted on 03/28/2006 10:01:14 PM PST by garandgal
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To: Deconstructionist; zook

zook is a globalist who hates America.




I disagree with zook very much on this issue, I don't know that poster well enough to make the assumption that he/she hates America.


323 posted on 03/28/2006 10:02:10 PM PST by trubluolyguy (Fences don't work? Better take down the one around the White house.)
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To: aureliusk
They think it quaint that I speak only English .

I understand Spanish pretty well, but I don't let those in the neighborhood know it. They make fun of us all the time, and say some pretty awful stuff.

Today when I was at the Food Bank, three tough looking Mexican Farm workers came in demanding some bread and were not happy to hear that it was not being given out today. They gave one of the staff who speaks pretty good Spanish a lot of guff, and we had to make it plain they needed to leave. I'm sure the place will be tagged tonight.

326 posted on 03/28/2006 10:04:09 PM PST by tertiary01 (Why are those who say a fence is not the answer most likely to live behind high walls)
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To: Deconstructionist
Haven't you heard? Cheap lettuce is more important than the value of your citizenship; more valuable than your culture and the future of your country.

We will have cheap lettuce. Either our farmers go out of business because of cheap imported lettuce, or you and I get to subsidize lettuce growers in order for them to be competitive.

327 posted on 03/28/2006 10:04:56 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: garandgal

Yeah, I know. Rock and hard place.


328 posted on 03/28/2006 10:05:52 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: durasell
How much are your cheapest tomatoes?

You know, I don't know the answer that question! I buy the most locally grown "hothouse" tomatoes that I can find. I'm rather "picky" about tomatoes.

Once in a while, I buy some Romas for sauce...I think they were about $2.49/lb last I checked.

329 posted on 03/28/2006 10:07:18 PM PST by garandgal
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To: garandgal

Thanks. I paid .99 cents a lb this afternoon for some little ones. I always wondered if food was cheaper in the "heartland."

If you ever come to NYC, you should arrange to visit here:

http://www.huntspointcoopmkt.com/


You will be amazed.


330 posted on 03/28/2006 10:10:07 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: sinkspur

Well, we eat too much salad anyway. To heck with lettuce.


331 posted on 03/28/2006 10:10:27 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: sinkspur

Well, we eat too much salad anyway. To heck with lettuce.


332 posted on 03/28/2006 10:10:30 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: aureliusk
"You pass a tough law that would put employers of illegals in jail for a long time. when the jobs go so will they . You act like the war would make anything else impossible to do . Flat out blunt , hire an illegal and you lose your business and serve jail time..Is it that too upfront to do ? this country needs some laws with balls and some plain language leaders."

I'm a little confused by your post ... We already have laws that Bush refuses to enforce. While I agree with stricter laws for employers who hire illegals, those laws are useless if unenforced. The American worker is powerless and scorned by the elites of both parties. It appears that Bush is beholden to the globalist thought. We are no longer a sovereign nation. Our laws are mocked by illegals and presidents alike. I have never voted Democrat and likely never will -- however, if I vote for a Republican again, it won't be a blue-blood Bush type.

Question to elitest Republicans: Do you really think you'll gain votes by telling Americans they're too lazy to work, they're racists becasue they expect the laws of the land to be enforced and unpatriotic if they're not globalists?

333 posted on 03/28/2006 10:12:04 PM PST by EverOnward (help support our hero soldiers at anysoldier.com)
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To: Killborn
I have lost count the number of times where a calm and careful examination might have given the GOP and the President a lot of leeway.

I really have to disagree with this statement. The contentious issues are ones that are at the heart of the conservative agenda. It's not really a question of leeway--W got a lot of leeway from his base in his first four years and, where he had slack, he usually exercised it in a leftward direction.

I really think the argument on this thread is not about tactics--it is about ideology. By and large, I suspect that most of the 'stay calm, it'll get better' folks are not from what I would call the conservative branch of the party and are not displeased with the leftward lurch of the party under W. Like W, they don't think controlling federal spending or the borders is worth spending political capital on. I really don't mean this as an epithet. There's a wide range of opinion in the party.

What is really going on is a hardheaded (and sometimes hysterical) appraisal by conservatives about whether the Republicans are (or can be brought around to) representing some serious conservative values.

I am still hopeful that they can be brought around so I am still dealt in. But, to be honest, I am a lot less sanguine about that than I was a few years ago.

I've seen how things work from the inside over the past few years. There is no question that the money in the party has ruthlessly worked to exclude principled conservatives (I'm not talking Pat Robertsons here) from candidacy and decision-making influence in the party. Simply put, principled conservatism is the best single way of making sure that your opponent in the primary gets money from the RNC. That has come from the top-down. The party is not a better place for it and the fall-out is a lot of bitter conservatives who are wondering if the Republican party even wants them.

Conservatives, by and large, aren't dumb or hysterical. We understand that progress is made in small steps--sometimes you even have to take two back to move forward again. The problem is that the footprints have generally headed left for the past five years. I really question whether the folks who control the money spigots in the party are interested in even baby-steps to the right.

If they are not and if conservatives cannot make them behave, then the sole remaining rationale for being a republican is that the democrats suck even more. I'm not sure I will be willing to spend my nights and weekends year round working without pay for that 'principle' because at that point, America cannot be saved--the only question is how quickly we reach the sewer because that's where both parties are taking us.

At that point, it is time for either: (1) quiet resignation to living out your life in a declining culture and doing your best to help your children lead a godly life in the midst of decline or (2) Peasants with pitchforks--and I'm too old to wield a pitchfork :)--I'll have to leave that to the youngsters.

334 posted on 03/28/2006 10:14:21 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: Jim Robinson
Just a "little" encouragement: I went to a seminar recently regarding locally grown produce.

My sister and I are starting a melon; heirloom tomato; and pepper (unusual peppers...not bells) operation this year.

My family already farms row-crop and livestock.

At this seminar we had the VP of one of the largest food distributors in the country; folks from large grocery store chains; and others.

They are literally "begging" for locally grown products...at the request of their customers. The American people like their food homegrown, it appears.

335 posted on 03/28/2006 10:14:47 PM PST by garandgal
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To: DevSix
and for you to take a silly swipe that success and that commitment....ends our need for this conversation.

Now we get to the heart of why you have totally ignored the original point and steered the conversation exclusively to the one arena - halfway across the world - where we can claim any success, to make this pathetic, totally predictable, and false ad hominem, like anyone with a swiss cheese argument and a subconscious lack of confidence in it. What I question is the strategy, specifically if we are still following the strategy that got us in there in the first place - it's quite demonstrable that we have abandoned it.

We only have a limited amount of resources and that is the reality most don't like to deal with.

Our President doesn't seem to think so WHEN HE'S GIVING OUR TAX DOLLARS TO ILLEGALS AND TERRORISTS!

336 posted on 03/28/2006 10:15:33 PM PST by thoughtomator (Pacifism is objectively pro-terrorist; Amnesty for illegals is objectively anti-American)
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To: garandgal

Yes, they'll pay a premium for good looking, good tasting, "vine ripened" home grown produce and specialty items.


338 posted on 03/28/2006 10:17:58 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: aureliusk
Citizenship is becomng meaningless now

Actually, it is the right to pay all the bills for the non-citizens who are seeking the American Dream here. Aren't we lucky?

339 posted on 03/28/2006 10:18:33 PM PST by KittyKares
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To: Jim Robinson; garandgal

I watched a guy today buy a four dollar tomato...


340 posted on 03/28/2006 10:19:22 PM PST by durasell (!)
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