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RNC Memo Warns GOPers Not To Distance Themselves From Bush
The Hotline (National Journal) ^ | March 28, 2006

Posted on 03/28/2006 7:52:53 PM PST by Karl Rand

Republican pollster Jan van Lohuizen, in a memo written for RNC chairman Ken Mehlman, warns that if members of Congress try to drive a wedge between themselves and Pres. Bush, it'd be akin to adding weight to an anchor. GOpers are "W Brand Republicans" whether they like it or not. And van Louhizen, who has polled (often secretly) for the Bush White House under the RNC aegis for years, is worried about low turnout.

Time Magazine first reported on the memo this weekend, but the full text is below.

(Excerpt) Read more at hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; albatross; branded; bush; bushrobusteza; congressbots; howlinandherbushbots; lockstep; partysuicide; rnc; wbrand; wbrandmadeinmexico
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To: zook; Mojave
So, by taking illegal immigrants out of the labor force, it will add $12 per head of lettuce in labor costs?

BTW, I live in Salinas, Ca the salad bowl of the earth. As I drive to work, it looks like they pick more than one head of lettuce per hour.

161 posted on 03/28/2006 8:57:58 PM PST by dc27
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To: zook
Not according to the business people I've heard talk about this.

Toro. Cite a source for the $15 head of lettuce myth.

162 posted on 03/28/2006 8:58:04 PM PST by Mojave
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To: Mini-14
Screw the Republicans. Vote Democratic in the U.S. House and tell the Democrats to impeach Bush.

I had to click on your name to see if you were still with the forum. The Bushy-Bots will be all over you if they see what you wrote. LOL! Btw, do you like your mini-14?

164 posted on 03/28/2006 8:58:08 PM PST by NRA2BFree (America*s current mass immigration mess is the result of a change in the laws in 1965!)
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To: FairOpinion
And Clinton sure was an improvement over George HW Bush, wasn't he? ( more sarcasm)

Just imagine what a Hellary would do to us

In her first public appearance as New York’s junior senator-elect, Hillary Rodham Clinton told a rally in Syracuse: "I believe strongly that in a democracy, we should respect the will of the people, and to me, that means it’s time to do away with the Electoral College and move to the popular election of our president." Displaying anew the vaunting arrogance that propelled her into a futile bid to re-cast our nation’s health system according to her whims, Mrs. Clinton announced that one of her first undertakings as a senator would be to support an amendment to provide for the "direct election" of the president.

Senator Clinton will find more than a little support on the Hill for this proposal. In a November 2000 press conference, Congressmen Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) and Ray LaHood (R-Ill.) called for the abolition of the Electoral College, which Durbin denigrated as a "Constitutional dinosaur" and "inherently unfair." To rectify what he considers a defect in our system, Rep. Durbin announced that he would propose a constitutional amendment to permit election of presidents by popular vote. "The way this gets changed," commented Rep. LaHood, "is if there’s a calamity in the country, where somebody were to get the popular vote but lose the electoral vote." In the wake of the Bush-Gore impasse, Melissa Merz, a spokesman for Rep. Durbin, observed: "Sometimes you have to have some kind of big event to build momentum for a constitutional amendment. And certainly I think this would be considered in that category."

165 posted on 03/28/2006 8:58:19 PM PST by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
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To: billbears

I can write out a long litany of the things he did right and how America is heading in the right direction but everyone's mind is made up. Whatever. I don't care anymore. I will defend him to the end and you guys will oppose him. That's that. Like the President said: "I love free speech."

Unlike the President, it can p* the hell out of me, so I guess I'm a lesser man in that sense.

In any case, the PResident is a sincere, God fearing, and courageous leader who believes in doing what is best for the country irregardless of push polls, trendy causes, and mob rule. I pray that our next one is like that. Many of you may come around, or not. I'm sure there are some uber right person cheesed off at Pres. Eisenhower or Pres. Reagan for expanding government and being soft on commies.

My three hopes for the future:

1) The President would not be used as an epithet, much like Pres. Reagan in a stupid "I'm more conservative THAN YOU!" hosing contest.

2)When people speak of the President in reverent terms, it won't be out of regret.

3)We can still speak of the President


166 posted on 03/28/2006 8:58:25 PM PST by Killborn (Pres. Bush isn't Pres. Reagan. Then again, Pres. Regan isn't Pres. Washington. God bless them all.)
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To: pissant; NJ_gent
Suffice to say I completely disagree with your view of national security. We will have a long time presence in the ME becasue the ME needed to be changed.

How stupid you bushbots are ! Has it ever entered your brain that they do not have the least wish to be changed ? Has it entered your brain that now that the Shiites have the organization and firepower to ethnic cleanse the Sunnis they no longer need us and want us out ? Do you count on gratitude ?

167 posted on 03/28/2006 8:59:05 PM PST by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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To: WOSG

"House passed budget cuts and Democrats opposed it, wanting bigger spending; they passed immigration reform without amnesty and Democrats opposed it"

WHAT ARE U TALKING ABOUT.
THE REPUBLICIANS ARE THE M A J O R I T Y. THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE M I N O R I T Y.
The GOP even with their majority status can't git er done


168 posted on 03/28/2006 8:59:43 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: aureliusk
we'd make up for it inthe billions spent on illegals milking the system , schools, abusing hospital emergency rooms , welfare ,not to mention the %30 prison population who are illegals

The bleeding heart leftists claim that poverty is to blame. Don't blame criminals for their crimes!

169 posted on 03/28/2006 8:59:57 PM PST by Mojave
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To: zook
"Go after the employers and we'll be paying 15 bucks for a head of lettuce."

You forgot a few zeroes; it's actually $15 Trillion per head of lettuce. There's also the part about how all our firstborn will break out into hives and how the moon will crash into the Earth if we boot illegal aliens. Something about changing the Earth's magnetic field and jobs Americans won't do... something like that.
170 posted on 03/28/2006 9:00:03 PM PST by NJ_gent (Modernman should not have been banned.)
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To: tennmountainman

I'm paying the same for gas today that I was paying 30 years ago (in constant dollars). I'm also paying less for gas than nearly any place else in the world (outside the middle east). I don't want to pay $15 for a head of lettuce just so I can savor the fact that it was picked by an American. But then, I'm a capitalist.


172 posted on 03/28/2006 9:00:48 PM PST by zook
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To: Mojave
A ton of dope weighs less than a ton of WMDs. It's science!

Ummm...if you have a ton of dope and a ton of WMDs then wouldn't they both weigh...a ton?

173 posted on 03/28/2006 9:01:00 PM PST by TheBigB (Try Ma Skillett's Funky Fritters!)
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To: Mo1

Notice how quiet Hellary has been through all this ? She's a dangerous b%tch.She's going to use the illegal problem to force a wedge between Republicans . She's a shrewd , dangerous one for real.


174 posted on 03/28/2006 9:01:15 PM PST by aureliusk
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To: aureliusk
don't take the tank analogy so literally. it was to make a point. The real point is that most great civilizations have fallen because of a watering down of language and culture.Allowing illegals to flood this country is the start of it . This will be a turning point in US history I'm afraid.

I agree with you in terms of watering down of our language and culture. I agree with you that there is an immigration problem. My post that you replied to was dealing with the WOT and if ME terrorists can easily walk into our Country and hit us with a dirty bomb, WMDs, ect. This is not the case.

175 posted on 03/28/2006 9:01:33 PM PST by SevenMinusOne
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To: Deconstructionist

Black male employment has dropped to terrifying levels. Why ? They are losing to illegals.

You are absolutely right. This is a tremendous wedge issue because the Democratic Party wants to buy Hispanic votes with Black jobs.


176 posted on 03/28/2006 9:01:36 PM PST by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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To: dc27
As I drive to work, it looks like they pick more than one head of lettuce per hour.

Yeah, well, you know those lazy Americans couldn't manage more that one head per hour. Only illegal aliens could manage that.

177 posted on 03/28/2006 9:01:53 PM PST by Mojave
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To: dc27
So, by taking illegal immigrants out of the labor force, it will add $12 per head of lettuce in labor costs?

I don't know how much it would cost

But to be competitive .. farmers would have to pay employers the sames as what the Union boys get

And gee .. the Unions did a bang up job for GM

178 posted on 03/28/2006 9:02:03 PM PST by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
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To: DevSix

If we're doing such a great job, how did a major figure in the Taliban get into the US? If millions of Mexicans can come over the border unmolested, so can others. And now our efforts in Afghanistan have resulted in a state that wants to put people to death for having committed the crime of converting from Islam... is that really what we went there to accomplish?

Bill Clinton had his own "War on Terror", if you recall.

Your position is the one that is ridiculous. It's no different from having taken an identical position in 2000, completely unfounded overconfidence. The only sensible position is to expect an attack at any time as long as the enemy continues to exist. Any other position betrays a complete misunderstanding of the threat.


179 posted on 03/28/2006 9:02:17 PM PST by thoughtomator (Pacifism is objectively pro-terrorist; Amnesty for illegals is objectively anti-American)
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To: dc27

Lettuce picking machine.

Mechanical inventions continually replace manual labor, we don't need immigrants to pick lettuce.
180 posted on 03/28/2006 9:02:49 PM PST by TheForceOfOne (El Chupacabra spotted near U.S./Mexican border feeding on illegal immigrants.)
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