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Coast-to-coast 'movement' rages on
THE WASHINGTON TIMES ^ | March 28, 2006 | Guy Taylor

Posted on 03/28/2006 2:18:36 PM PST by razorbak

The Roman Catholic Church, dozens of grass-roots coalitions and Spanish-language radio disc jockeys have helped fuel protests nationwide against congressional efforts to tackle illegal immigration....

The Catholic Church has played a key role in opposing legislation to restrict immigration and rallying protesters....

"As we've been able to reach more and more people, they're waking up to the ills of the proposals made to date and seeing the need to be vocal about the kinds of reforms that would be more acceptable," said Mark D. Franken, executive director of migration and refugee services for the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops....

The bishops conference in May began "Justice for Immigrants," a campaign focused on activating a network of grass-roots movements against punitive immigration-reform legislation....

Mr. Franken said all the nation's 197 Catholic dioceses are in some way backing the campaign, with more than 70 being particularly active. Disseminating pamphlets and networking, community-level groups tied to the campaign are operating "in churches and everywhere they can gain access," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at insider.washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: catholics; fifthcolumn; hispanics; illegals; intifada; mexico; nacos
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To: EternalVigilance

Thank you!


81 posted on 03/28/2006 5:18:09 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: sinkspur
Interesting article: Catholic leaders increasingly take immigrants' side Bishops' strong stance has found resistance in some parishioners
82 posted on 03/28/2006 5:18:41 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: sageb1

Many of these bishops are out of touch with the Vatican...


83 posted on 03/28/2006 5:21:38 PM PST by Heartofsong83
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To: pissant
The trend in the Catholic Church has been more towards tradition and conservatism lately. So come help shift the tide even further.

:-). I love that!! Thank you very much for the encouragement.

I do get this sense on Catholic websites I have been going to and I am excited about that shift. This is part of the reason I was so dismayed when I read about the bishops. I wonder about what the popes response to all this will be. Maybe I could make an impact locally. West Los Angeles though, some of the worst limosine liberals in the world.

84 posted on 03/28/2006 5:28:22 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: kstewskis

Not sure about the figure for bishops, but less than 1/3 of the dioceses have signed up to join the petition of the bishops.


85 posted on 03/28/2006 5:29:33 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: razorbak

They should all lose their tax exempt status.


86 posted on 03/28/2006 5:30:50 PM PST by The Great RJ ("Mir wölle bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: Jaded
LA is off the chart with their creative theology.

I can only imagine.

87 posted on 03/28/2006 5:31:45 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: sageb1
Not sure about the figure for bishops, but less than 1/3 of the dioceses have signed up to join the petition of the bishops.

I'm not sure what petition you are speaking of. I didn't see it in the link you provided.

That said, the USCCB tends to march to their own drum (contrary to Rome), so I don't put a whole lot of credibility in them, especially with this issue.

88 posted on 03/28/2006 5:34:08 PM PST by kstewskis ("I don't know what I know, but I know that it's big".....Jerry Fletcher)
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To: kstewskis
I should have a button made which simply says "2241" and wear it to Mass!! LOL!!

This is great!!! Wish I could join you.

89 posted on 03/28/2006 5:35:39 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: kstewskis

Apologies. I used the term "petition" loosely. I do know that information kits have been sent to parishes to ecourage priests to "talk" to their congregations about the issue. Nothing has been said in my own church.


90 posted on 03/28/2006 5:38:58 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: kstewskis

The US bishops do not speak "for the Church" as a whole.

So true...but even more to the point...the USSCB is a worthless organization which pretends to have any real canonical status and speak for the Church. I have a priest friend who says just as much. Of course, he's young and part of the new generation of clergy that is going to bury these old liberal fossil bishops.

I'll stick with the Pope himself and the authentic magisterium, thank you.


91 posted on 03/28/2006 5:44:32 PM PST by jrny
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To: jrny
I'll stick with the Pope himself and the authentic magisterium, thank you.

Thank you, and I'll join you there.

And I'll say an extra prayer tonight for your young priest, he'll need them!

92 posted on 03/28/2006 5:47:20 PM PST by kstewskis ("I don't know what I know, but I know that it's big".....Jerry Fletcher)
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To: sageb1; jrny
Apologies. I used the term "petition" loosely. I do know that information kits have been sent to parishes to ecourage priests to "talk" to their congregations about the issue. Nothing has been said in my own church.

No apology needed.

Interesting thing about these "information kits." Especially depending which diocese you are in, and which bishop/cardinal is heading it.

Like what jrny mentioned above, take heed with what the Pope himself and the authentic magisterium says. That way, you'll be informed if these "talks" are done in your parish.

93 posted on 03/28/2006 5:52:19 PM PST by kstewskis ("I don't know what I know, but I know that it's big".....Jerry Fletcher)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

"The fact is, most of us have to endure Sucralose sermons along the lines of "It's good to be good and it's nice to be nice."

Sorry to hear about it. We've getting some good, fiery homilies lately; Father has been on a roll. Been all I can do to stay seated and refrain from cheering.


94 posted on 03/28/2006 6:17:23 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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To: GOP Poet

"And I was thinking about going back to the Catholic church, because I am uncomfortable with the rising liberalism in my local Christian church that is increasingly effecting sermons and even how mass is structured. Well, looks like the LA diocese won't be getting this lady anytime soon. Thank you Jesus! :-)"

You should take a look at the eastern Catholic churches in L.A., of which there are several. As a rule, the eastern Catholic churches tend to be far more conservative in both theology and liturgical tradition. They are not administratively controlled by the Roman Catholic Archdiocese and have their own Bishops.


95 posted on 03/28/2006 6:23:36 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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To: NYer

This is an outrage.


96 posted on 03/28/2006 6:29:51 PM PST by Barnacle
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To: kstewskis
Are you actually saying that Benedict XVI would approve actions contrary to the teachings of part 2241 in the Catachism of the Catholic Church?

Publicly, he would say nothing contradictory to the US Bishops in their attempts to legalize immigrants currently in the country.

97 posted on 03/28/2006 7:38:57 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: Heartofsong83
Many of these bishops are out of touch with the Vatican...

What has the Vatican said to contradict the American bishops?

98 posted on 03/28/2006 7:40:18 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur; A.A. Cunningham; wagglebee; Mrs. Don-o; pissant; zerosix; visualops; sageb1; ...
Publicly, he would say nothing contradictory to the US Bishops in their attempts to legalize immigrants currently in the country.

Attempts at helping to legalize immigrants is the one thing, and the right (Catholic) thing to do.

Aiding and abetting breaking the law, as what Mahony is doing, is quite another.

99 posted on 03/28/2006 7:42:57 PM PST by kstewskis ("I don't know what I know, but I know that it's big".....Jerry Fletcher)
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To: razorbak

Well, looks like Liberation Theology is making a comeback.
Right here in the USA.

I'm not Catholic and don't expect it will happen.
But I'd love to see Ratzinger lecture Mahoney like JPII did that one
Lib. Theology priest in Nicarauga...


100 posted on 03/28/2006 7:45:18 PM PST by VOA
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