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Killer's taunt: "There's plenty for everyone" (Seattle rave killings)
Seattle Post-Intelligencer ^ | 28 March 2006 | Hector Castro

Posted on 03/28/2006 12:42:39 PM PST by Moose4

Hiding and terrified, some of those inside a Capitol Hill house where six people were shot dead during a post-rave party Saturday managed to call 911 for help, whispering to avoid discovery by the heavily armed gunman, authorities said Monday.

Kyle Aaron Huff, 28, taunted his victims at the home at 2112 E. Republican St., saying as he fired, "There's plenty for everyone."

Four men were killed in the rampage, but the most shocking revelations came Monday, when authorities disclosed that the other two victims were young girls: a 14-year-old from Milton and a 15-year-old from Bellevue.

The King County Medical Examiner's Office on Monday officially ruled Huff's death a suicide. The gunman shot himself in the head as the first police officer arrived.

(Excerpt) Read more at seattlepi.nwsource.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: banglist; huff; killings; rave; seattle
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To: CygnusXI

A local radio station played the beginning of a Rush song, and then cut out, saying "we play today's greatest hits, NOT your parents' music!"

This made me feel old.


41 posted on 03/28/2006 1:29:30 PM PST by dinoparty
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To: Paradox

The girl didn't deserve this tragedy, but the parents surely enabled it.


42 posted on 03/28/2006 1:30:40 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Moose4

I don't think all the parent-bashing is fair in this case. I had no curfew at 14 because I was responsible (already had a job - in MD you can work at 14) and also stubborn and insisted on an intelligent conversation about it with my parents.

I stayed out all night at times because I'm a natural born night-owl. Never did drugs and never got into trouble.

I realize I, and others like me, may be exceptions, but you can't just blindly blame parents when you don't know the full story of their family.

We do have freedom, guaranteed in the Constitution, to parent as we see fit. The freedom worked for me. Parental rules will not protect your child from random crazies like the guy in this story. In another scenario, it could have happened while she walked to the mail box at 3pm, or more likely if she were in a post office.


43 posted on 03/28/2006 1:32:04 PM PST by CTMRIop (F the GOP! Go Constitutional!)
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To: nmh

Think sardine-packed young crowd, pounding base, dancing lights, extacy (the drug), sweat and nudity all combined in one place.


44 posted on 03/28/2006 1:33:44 PM PST by dinoparty
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To: CTMRIop
I'm assuming you are male.

Depending on a child's personality I can see a boy making the case that he will be responsible - I wouldn't buy it, but I can see the argument.

With a girl I know that whether or not she is as responsible as can be, she is target for people who would want more than just her wallet.

There is a crucial difference.

45 posted on 03/28/2006 1:35:44 PM PST by wideawake
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To: CygnusXI

Ha, that sounds like a line from one of the Comedy (Network? Channel? Thingy?) "Adult Swim" cartoons - they're full of Rush references.


46 posted on 03/28/2006 1:40:34 PM PST by -YYZ-
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To: butternut_squash_bisque

2112 is an (old?) Rush Album.


47 posted on 03/28/2006 1:41:40 PM PST by CygnusXI (Where's that dang Meteor already?)
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To: HamiltonJay

"Concerned father", Kyle Moore
48 posted on 03/28/2006 1:43:01 PM PST by rabidralph (We don't need no fancy book learnin,' now, get off the property!)
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To: Moose4

I just heard from my son who this morning found out one of his best friends was a victim of this shooter. Thank God, he survived and is expected to recover. Son's on his way to the hospital now to see his friend. It's strange to feel devstated and thankful all at the same time, I can't imagine how his friend's parents feel.

Here's some interesting information my son's gotten since he found out about his. Apparently the shooter sent a message to a local blog asking about rave parties this weekend. He was told about this one. He showed up and hung around and someone invited him to the party at the house. The letters NOW stand for "Nazis On War" and the thinking is when he got to the party, he finally got up the nerve to begin shooting. They think he had planned to shoot up the rave itself, but lost his nerve.

As a side, my son doesn't attend these events and the only reason his friend was there is because he knew the DJ. The friend went to the party as an after thought and didn't really know anyone there. He is lucky to be alive and thank god, he is.


49 posted on 03/28/2006 1:46:48 PM PST by ShandaLear (Announcing you plans is a good way to hear God laugh. Al Swearengen, 1877—Deadwood)
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To: wideawake
When you're a parent you'll understand exactly how egregious their conduct here was.

I know how egregious it was, and yes, a 3am curfew for a 14yr old is ridiculous.

But what's also ridiculous is thinking that some civil infraction can possibly "send a message" to parents when having a daughter brutally killed somehow does not.

The side issue of why these people were out on the town doing whatever it was they were doing may be fun and interesting to talk about, but it is just that: a side issue. The perp in this case was *going* to explode somewhere.

It could have been another party, or a school, or the mall, or any one of thousands of places at any time of the day or night. These kids, whoever misspent and ill-parented they may be, did not *cause* this event. They were a target of convenience and it could have been anyone, anywhere, any time.

If it makes you feel better that you're a smarter parent than they are, then swell. But I tire of these demands for government parenting by proxy. I don't think we would find the state to be a better parent, even than these fools.

50 posted on 03/28/2006 1:53:43 PM PST by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 1100 knives and counting!)
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To: kaboom

Meth would be a good bet.


51 posted on 03/28/2006 1:55:42 PM PST by absalom01 (NRA,CRPA)
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To: Sax

Remember this is WASHINGTON state...not surprising.


53 posted on 03/28/2006 1:58:03 PM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: PLOM...NOT!
They certainly didn't parent like they had something to lose.

Nope. Do you suppose that the other dead people there that were older... that they had bad parents too?

They're just as dead. Their parents must be to blame too, I suppose.

No sense blaming the perpetrator. What use would that be?

54 posted on 03/28/2006 1:59:22 PM PST by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 1100 knives and counting!)
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine
not surprising.

It seems to have been surprising to somebody.

55 posted on 03/28/2006 2:00:59 PM PST by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 1100 knives and counting!)
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To: Ramius

Perhaps a message needs to be sent to all the other stupid parents who let their children to go to DRUG parties because "at least I know where they are." Yes, I witnessed the mom make this statement on a TV news interview last night and I was dumbfounded at utter level of stupidity and blatant disregard for her daughters well being.

Jail will make me feel better. Parents need to stop turning their children loose on the neighborhood because they are too lazy to parent or they are incapable of believing their child could ever do any wrong.

Had she not been murdered, what are the odds that she'd have a child out-of-wedlock and get onto welfare given what we know about her activities as a 15 year old?


56 posted on 03/28/2006 2:02:15 PM PST by Diplomat
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To: CTMRIop

I witnessed the mom state on TV last night that she knew where her daughter was. Is the mom utterly stupid, or just completely niave? Rave party means drugs. The mom knew.


57 posted on 03/28/2006 2:04:45 PM PST by Diplomat
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To: ansel12

Yep... Note that even though he apparently had an "assault weapon" in his car, it appears that he did not use it to commit this crime, and instead left it in the car, rather he used the shotgun and the pistol. That will not stop the gun grabbers from decrying the sunset of the idiotic AWB...


58 posted on 03/28/2006 2:06:53 PM PST by Zeppo
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To: Diplomat
Jail will make me feel better.

But that's not what justice is about. It's not about making people uninvolved in a situation *feel* better.

59 posted on 03/28/2006 2:09:21 PM PST by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 1100 knives and counting!)
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To: Moose4

Too bad no one else there had a gun. :(


60 posted on 03/28/2006 2:16:02 PM PST by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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