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Did Chinese Intelligence pickup on Iraq moving WMD to Syria? ( Based on FR document translation )
FreeRepublic and Security Watchtower ^ | March 28, 2006 | By C.S. Scott

Posted on 03/28/2006 10:56:21 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

FreeRepublic Thread with ?Translation :

Saddam Regime Document Dated January 2003: The French and German Connections (Translation)

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In this document ISGZ-2004-028179 there is a report by the Assistant of the Iraqi Intelligence Director to his boss “The Director” dated January/23/2003 regarding the visit of one German and one Frenchman to Iraq and these two guys talk about their strong relation with the top government officials in both France and Germany. In this letter the German that German Chancellor Schroeder was totally opposed to the idea of the war in Iraq and it his opposition to the possible war that made him win the German elections held in 2002. Also there is an important part of the letter where it mention the visit of German Chancellor to meet with the Chinese Prime minister and that the Chinese PM told Schroeder “about the information that was obtained by the Chinese intelligence and it says that Iraq has moved his mass of destruction weapon to Syria and the German Chancellor told him that the German intelligence did not indicate this. And after two days the US state secretary went to Damascus to check on this with the Syrian government that in turn denied this news.” Also in the letter it show the fear of the French to join the war because of the heavy losses that will suffer..

Beginning of the Translation of 4 pages report in document ISGZ-2004-028179

*****************************AN EXCERPT from Security Watchtower************************

According to a Free Republic translation of an Iraqi Intelligence document, Chinese Intelligence had picked up information that Iraq had moved their weapons of mass destruction to Syria. The document reveals Chinese Prime Minister Zhu Rongji had held a meeting with German President Gerhard Schroeder and told him "the information that was obtained by the Chinese intelligence and it says that Iraq has moved his mass of destruction weapon to Syria and the German Chancellor told him that the German intelligence did not indicate this. And after two days the US state secretary went to Damascus to check on this with the Syrian government that in turn denied this news.”

The trip by Colin Powell to Syria in February 2001 may be what the document is referring to. According to the report, Secretary Powell announced a last minute, unscheduled visit to Syria, saying he was "going to be stopping in Damascus, Syria, to meet with President Bashir Assad" in order to hold talks and "present a report to President Bush as to what we should be doing."

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Closing

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The report also notes that "in April 2001, Hanning told the Welt am Sonntag newspaper that Iraq was developing a new class of chemical weapons, reiterated his alert on Iraq's missile and nuclear programs, and said that several German companies had continued to deliver to Baghdad components needed for the production of poison gas."

Two unanswered questions remain.

1. What led Chinese intelligence to believe that Saddam Hussein may have moved weapons of mass destruction to Syria?

2. Was Schroeder's denial of Iraq moving WMD largely a result of his own knowledge that Iraq still had weapons of mass destruction in their own country?

Posted by C.S. Scott at March 28, 2006 12:44 AM


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: china; iraq; iraqiintelligence; prewardocs; russia; wmd
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1 posted on 03/28/2006 10:56:24 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: jveritas; eyespysomething; Marine_Uncle; Coop

Good presentation of some questions arising from the document translated by JV.


2 posted on 03/28/2006 10:58:23 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Freepers: doing the work the MSM used to do.


3 posted on 03/28/2006 10:58:34 AM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: LS; Grampa Dave; Jim Robinson; Brad's Gramma; Peach; Mo1; Cap Huff; Dog

AMEN!!!


4 posted on 03/28/2006 11:01:47 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Oil for food folks trying to cover their a**! they got busted anyhow!


5 posted on 03/28/2006 11:05:59 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Chena; Valin; M. Thatcher; DocRock; Calpernia; Madame Dufarge; Txsleuth; ...
Thanks for the ping Ernest_!

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6 posted on 03/28/2006 11:06:18 AM PST by eyespysomething
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; LS

The MSM has given up. So we've taken over for them.


7 posted on 03/28/2006 11:06:43 AM PST by Peach
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To: LS

Nah, the Old Media never did this.


8 posted on 03/28/2006 11:07:41 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: eyespysomething; jveritas

Whomever is helping jveritas with this blog - THANK YOU!!!


9 posted on 03/28/2006 11:10:42 AM PST by Peach
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The MSM has given up. So we've taken over for them.

I don't think they gave up. I think they couldn't rationalize their position on the war with what was contained in the documents. Psychologists might call this cognitive dissonance. I call it selective ignorance or plausible deniability (a concept made popular by Bill Clinton).

10 posted on 03/28/2006 11:11:02 AM PST by Ben Mugged (labor unions are socialism's shock troops)
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To: Ben Mugged

Oooh - good points.


11 posted on 03/28/2006 11:11:50 AM PST by Peach
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To: Peach
The MSM has given up. So we've taken over for them.

Don't you just love it.....seems so RIGHT!!!

12 posted on 03/28/2006 11:12:47 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Help spread the word about jveritas's blog:

Freeper jveritas, who was interviewed by the NYT and The Boston Globe, has a web site now with the help of someone.

http://iraqdocs.blogspot.com/



13 posted on 03/28/2006 11:13:34 AM PST by Peach
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To: Peach
Oh thanks, I didn't catch what you were talking about.....

Good Move by JV....

14 posted on 03/28/2006 11:15:59 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I'm going to try and post that on the various threads as I come across them.

He's doing such fabulous work; I'm proud of him.


15 posted on 03/28/2006 11:16:44 AM PST by Peach
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To: Peach

Bookmarked!


16 posted on 03/28/2006 11:17:25 AM PST by tiredoflaundry (I'll admit it , I'm a Snow Flake !(Snoq) The rest of my tagline redacted by court order.)
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Hi, tired. Let's try and remember to post that info about jveritas's blog tomorrow on the Tony Snow thread.


17 posted on 03/28/2006 11:18:30 AM PST by Peach
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To: Peach
The permalink to the specific document on his Blog:

Tuesday, March 28, 2006
Document: The French and German Connections in January 2003

18 posted on 03/28/2006 11:19:01 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Peach

Good idea!


19 posted on 03/28/2006 11:19:52 AM PST by tiredoflaundry (I'll admit it , I'm a Snow Flake !(Snoq) The rest of my tagline redacted by court order.)
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To: Peach


Thanks for info.


20 posted on 03/28/2006 11:20:20 AM PST by jazusamo (Excuse me Helen, I'm answering your first accusation. - President Bush)
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