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To: gondramB
Now that I'm back from work and well fed I'll do a better job responding.

"There are NO RIGHTS that everyone else has that homosexuals do not already have."

Yes but some people are trying to prevent the formation of legal households (not marriage but other legal arrangements) based on sexual orientation. That seems to be a violation of equal protection.

What do you mean, "hide who they are"? Are you talking about gay bath houses and gay pride parades here, or are you talking about "out" homosexuals being teachers and joining the military? Write in clear English, please, not slogans that are designed to heighten emotion but have no meaning.

Additionally, your comment "hide who they are" is a talking point of gay rights activists. It means that their sex acts ARE their identity. Sex acts are chosen and voluntary. If you mean their feelings, we all have zillions of feelings. Are people supposed to be grouped in identity brackets because of their "feelings"? Or because of their chosen sex acts? What about bestialophiles not hiding who they are? What about incestophiles not hiding who they are? What about pedophiles not hiding who they are? What about polyamoryphiles not hiding who they are?"


If you don't get the difference under the American system of adults who don't hurt anybody being different from people who abuse animals or children then I don't know how to convince you. it sounds like we have a fundamental difference of opinion over the power of government.

And while you are entitled to your opinion, I am convinced that opinions like that are hurting conservatism - you seek to extend the power of government over our personal lives and there are enough people who call themselves conservatives being very noisy about this so that all conservatives get labeled as seeking to have big government. It is very unfortunate.
104 posted on 03/28/2006 2:41:00 PM PST by gondramB (Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and unto God that which is God's.)
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To: little jeremiah

Post #104 was supposed to be addressed to you. Sorry about that.


105 posted on 03/28/2006 2:42:12 PM PST by gondramB (Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and unto God that which is God's.)
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To: gondramB

You have not explained why you think that anyone should get special legal recognition because of their methods of sexual gratification.


109 posted on 03/28/2006 3:28:57 PM PST by little jeremiah (Tolerating evil IS evil.)
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To: gondramB
You stated: And while you are entitled to your opinion, I am convinced that opinions like that are hurting conservatism - you seek to extend the power of government over our personal lives and there are enough people who call themselves conservatives being very noisy about this so that all conservatives get labeled as seeking to have big government. It is very unfortunate.

When I read the above I find it very hard to think that you really mean this. Are you unaware of the many, many laws that have been implemented to promote "gay rights"? Are you aware that that every effort to promote legal recognition of homosexuality as something which needs protection or rights means MORE AND MORE LAWS?

Law upon law upon law. Government control increases with the increase of special rights for homosexuals. Rights for cross dressers in schools and jobs. Laws prohibiting homeowners from not renting to homosexuals, transvestites and so on. Laws mandating that schools teach "gay is good" sex ed and including "gay is good" cirricula in every aspect of school. Laws mandating that foster and adoptive parents attend "senstivity training". Laws mandating that government employees attend such training (which is nothing but homosexual indoctrination). Laws prohibiting any speech which might "offend" homosexuals.

The claim that conservatives who oppose special rights for homosexuals want big government is a flagrant lie. It's the proponents of "gay rights" who want to use big government (and specifically the judiciary) to shove it down our throats.

112 posted on 03/28/2006 3:56:51 PM PST by little jeremiah (Tolerating evil IS evil.)
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