To: gondramB
You stated:
And while you are entitled to your opinion, I am convinced that opinions like that are hurting conservatism - you seek to extend the power of government over our personal lives and there are enough people who call themselves conservatives being very noisy about this so that all conservatives get labeled as seeking to have big government. It is very unfortunate.When I read the above I find it very hard to think that you really mean this. Are you unaware of the many, many laws that have been implemented to promote "gay rights"? Are you aware that that every effort to promote legal recognition of homosexuality as something which needs protection or rights means MORE AND MORE LAWS?
Law upon law upon law. Government control increases with the increase of special rights for homosexuals. Rights for cross dressers in schools and jobs. Laws prohibiting homeowners from not renting to homosexuals, transvestites and so on. Laws mandating that schools teach "gay is good" sex ed and including "gay is good" cirricula in every aspect of school. Laws mandating that foster and adoptive parents attend "senstivity training". Laws mandating that government employees attend such training (which is nothing but homosexual indoctrination). Laws prohibiting any speech which might "offend" homosexuals.
The claim that conservatives who oppose special rights for homosexuals want big government is a flagrant lie. It's the proponents of "gay rights" who want to use big government (and specifically the judiciary) to shove it down our throats.
To: little jeremiah
You said"Are you unaware of the many, many laws that have been implemented to promote "gay rights"? "
I oppose all those example that involve special rights for homosexuals. For example I oppose the recent change here in Atlanta that gave survivor rights to domestic partners but only for gay couples.
For that matter, I oppose special rights based on race or sex.
You mentioned cross dressers. I think the dress code should be the same for all students.
You mentioned "Laws mandating that schools teach "gay is good" sex ed." I would ask why are we teaching sex ed at all in public school? Public school is an involuntary rounding up of children. The mandate to do that is very narrow - for education to help the economy only.
You mentioned "Laws prohibiting any speech which might "offend" homosexuals"." I oppose all hate speech and hate crime legislation - the same laws should apply to everyone.
You said "The claim that conservatives who oppose special rights for homosexuals want big government is a flagrant lie."
That would be wrong, if I had said it. What I meant (and maybe I mis-spoke) was that laws regulating private behavior between consenting adults are big government beyond any power given to the government by the constitution.
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03/28/2006 4:13:18 PM PST by
gondramB
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