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Schiavos speak up about life after Terri (Barf Alert!)
SP Times ^ | March 28, 2006 | ANITA KUMAR

Posted on 03/28/2006 7:19:33 AM PST by NYer

CLEARWATER - The one-story brick house sits in a carefully tended yard in a cul de sac, a gray Honda minivan parked in the driveway shaded by trees. Hospice, the license plate says, Every day is a gift .

Inside, he reads his daughter to sleep and changes his son's diapers. He steps over disregarded toys and animal books and escapes with the Sopranos and Extreme Home Makeover , slipping happily into someone else's drama. He works 12-hour days to keep the bills at bay and yawns as he sits on the couch. She reminds him to take out the trash, and he does.

This is Michael Schiavo's new life. Life after Terri.

Every day is a gift.

* * *

In the year since Terri Schiavo died the most public of deaths, Michael still leads two different lives.

He guards his privacy but has written a book about the years-long political and ethical battle he waged to remove his wife's feeding tube. He fails to keep up with happenings in Tallahassee and Washington yet has started his own political action committee. He removes all signs of his first wife from his house yet welcomes recognition and comments from strangers about what he did for her.

The book, Terri: The Truth , which will be released in bookstores today, calls for education about living wills and eating disorders and for fighting politicians, activists, anyone intervening in end-of-life decisions.

In his first newspaper interview since Terri died, Mike - known by the world as Michael but called Mike by family members and friends - tells the St. Petersburg Times that a lot has happened to him in the last year, but not much has changed.

He buried his wife. Changed jobs. Got married. Was promoted.

But much of the bitterness remains, dividing the family, dividing America.

These days, there are only flashes of the elusive, arrogant Michael Schiavo the world got to know. He's more reflective now but still has to remind himself sometimes not to get angry.

"This was the biggest right to die case in history. This will never ever go away. So everybody has to learn to live with it and just get on," he said in a lengthy, wide-ranging interview last week. "I can't make it go away. It will always be there. But you can teach yourself how to move on."

Has he taught himself to move on? Not quite, he said, but he's working on it.

* * *

After his wife's death on March 31, 2005, Mike left town for two months. He and his longtime girlfriend, Jodi Centonze, took their two young children to a friend's beach house.

Mike, a registered nurse, took the extended time off from work at the Pinellas County Jail after his co-workers donated vacation days to him. They contributed so many days he gave some back.

The family returned to their home in Countryside where they had lived quietly for years, before the case ever landed in court.

The four-bedroom house with the sage green trim and enclosed swimming pool sits alongside five other houses. It was there that camera crews camped out on the sidewalk and activists threw roses for Terri on the front lawn.

Mike helps supervise the 150 nurses who care for the jail's 3,600 inmates. His schedule is never the same two weeks in a row. These days he comes home at 7 p.m. It used to be midnight.

Jodi, whom Mike calls Jo, had worked her way from file clerk to vice president at an insurance agency when she quit in 2000 after the company was sold. She stays home with their kids now and the family lives off Mike's annual salary of $68,500.

Three-year-old Olivia loves all princesses from Cinderella to Belle. She prances around the house in her bathing suit, hoping for time in the pool. She attends a Catholic preschool three days a week.

Nicholas, 2, likes Thomas the Tank Engine, climbing and beating up on his sister. He never tires of stuffing big chunks of bananas in his mouth.

"Meow. Meow," Nicky grins. No one knows where he got that. The family has a dog, a golden retriever named Samantha.

The couple have never considered moving from Pinellas County where his former in-laws, the Schindlers, still live and where Schiavo has been a household name for years.

"Why should I?" asked Mike, 42, wearing shorts and a T-shirt while eating his usual chicken Caesar salad from a favorite Italian restaurant on a recent Sunday night.

Mike notices strangers nudging each other when they catch sight of him in a restaurant or shop. Every few days, someone will approach him.

"They talk. They whisper. When they say something to me, it's always complimentary," he said. "I had one gentleman tell me the other day that I'm his hero."

Jodi, 41, is never recognized. In the dozen years she has known and loved Mike, she has never attended a court hearing or spoken publicly. Until now.

Almost at the last minute, Jodi has decided to join Mike as he embarks on a week's worth of national publicity to talk about the book. She will appear on at least three national shows.

"How do you prepare for that? I don't know. You never know what people are going to say or do to you," she said, curled up on the couch wearing jeans with her curly brown hair pulled back. "I am not embarrassed or ashamed of who I am."

Inside their house, there is no sign of Terri. Photos of her are stored under the bed in the master bedroom, where Jodi worked with a professional decorator to develop their sophisticated dark wood and animal motif.

Mike packed away years of newspaper clippings, magazine articles, documents and letters about Terri in two huge plastic bins. They sit in the garage, alongside an old dining room table and outdated toys.

He said he will pull the boxes out one day when his children are old enough to hear about Terri. He hopes they will be proud.

* * *

Mike and Jodi met in July 1993. Mike was visiting a friend, who is an orthodontist. Jodi was sitting in the waiting room.

It had been three years since Terri's heart mysteriously stopped in 1990, depriving her brain of oxygen and leaving her in what her doctors called a persistent vegetative state.

Mike and Jodi became friends, and he said he gradually realized he was falling in love with her. He said he broke up with her three or four times as he struggled with the guilt of loving two women at the same time. He worried about dragging Jodi into his messy life.

"I knew the score when I met him," she said. "I didn't expect Mike to turn his back on Terri, just to move on to an easier life with me."

He eventually asked Jodi to marry him in October 1994. She said yes, though she felt uncomfortable wearing a ring at first. They bought a home together in 1995 and years later decided to have children without knowing when they would marry.

Mike and Jodi were together through almost every legal decision about Terri, through the entire battle with the Schindlers, through the political fight. These days, it's Jodi, even more than Mike, who can't seem to stop talking about the case, constantly steering their conversations back to the Schindlers, the anger still apparent after all these years.

Jodi said she felt like she knew Terri from Mike and his large family. Early on they often misspoke and called her Terri.

After Mike's mother died, Jodi took over the Terri chores. With help from nurses and aides, Jodi did Terri's laundry each week and shopped for the clothes, makeup and perfume Mike insisted she keep wearing in bed.

Jodi visited Terri once, in 2000. Judge George Greer ordered that the feeding tube be removed. It was supposed to be the end, and Jodi wanted to say goodbye.

In March 2005, Terri Schiavo was still alive and her case had become a national cause. Mike still was arguing for her feeding tube to be removed; her parents still were arguing against it, saying she could recover. Court appeals were exhausted. Gov. Jeb Bush and the Legislature had tried to intervene on the side of Terri's parents. Congress and President Bush were about to step in.

As protesters and TV cameras camped out at their house, Jodi worried about their children. She asked Mike something she had never asked before: Give up the fight.

They argued for hours until he agreed. Then he called his attorney, George Felos.

Felos reminded him the case was now bigger than Terri Schiavo. He said it was about everyone who wanted to be able to refuse medical treatment, everyone who didn't want the government to intervene in their lives.

Mike told Jodi he had changed his mind, that he would not walk away. Jodi did. She packed her bags and left with the kids.

"I was done," she said. "It was no longer Mike and the Schindlers. It was Mike and the governor and then Mike and the president. Forget it already. This is crazy. You are just one little person from Florida. Enough already."

She came back the next morning.

Mike and Jodi planned to wait until April 2006 - a full year after Terri's death - to get married. Friends persuaded Jodi to stop caring what people would think and move up the date.

The invitations were mailed in early December. Word didn't leak until the day before the Jan. 21 ceremony. Jodi's wedding planner used her last name for most arrangements. Jodi bought her dress under her mother's maiden name. Even the photographer was asked to sign a confidentiality agreement. The first one refused.

About 90 people attended the wedding at a Catholic church in Safety Harbor and reception at East Lake Country Club where everything from the bridesmaids' dresses to the M&Ms, the couple's favorite, fit in with a black and white theme.

At each place setting was a note announcing that a donation had been made to Hospice of the Florida Suncoast in memory of Mike and Jodi's parents. And in memory of Terri.

At the wedding, Mike wore his new wedding band, a circle of diamonds almost 3 carats in weight. He asked Jodi Schiavo if it would be okay if he also wore another ring, one he fashioned long ago out of diamonds from Terri's wedding ring. She said yes.

"It's always been Mike, Terri and me," she said softly.

* * *

Mike doesn't read the daily newspaper that lands on his front walk. He doesn't follow the Florida Legislature or Congress either.

But he knows he needs to start. He has formed a political action committee, TerriPAC, to raise money and challenge the politicians who tried to intervene in his effort to remove Terri's feeding tube. He has raised $10,000 so far.

"People who got involved in my life should have never gotten involved," he said. "If they can do it to me, they can do it to you. They are voted and elected in to run the country, not my life. Or anybody else's life."

Mike said he hopes his book will spur more interest in his cause and is spending this week in New York trying to drum up sales with appearances on NBC's Today Show and ABC's The View , among others.

He said he has no plan to seek public office, though he said "quite a few people" asked him to run for U.S. Senate.

Mike said he won't earn any money from the PAC or from what he expects to be regular speaking engagements. He won't say what he received for writing the book.

Mike and Jodi Schiavo switched from registered Republicans to registered Democrats after Terri died. Mike said it's not about partisan politics and said he will support Republicans or Democrats, even though it was the GOP majority in the Legislature and Congress that tried to prolong Terri's life.

He plans to endorse candidates this year in many races, including the Florida governor's race. Both Democratic candidates, state Sen. Rod Smith and U.S. Rep. Jim Davis, vocally opposed legislative efforts to reinsert the tube.

* * *

Terri was cremated and her ashes buried at a cemetery in Clearwater. A brass grave marker inscribed with the words "I kept my promise" and a simple marble bench overlook a pond with a fountain in the center.

Jodi Schiavo helped find possible sites. Mike made the final decision.

"I think Terri would have been very proud and very happy," Mike said. "I did what she wanted. She's set free."

Mike will fly home from New York on Friday, the anniversary of Terri's death. He wants some time alone, some time to do something private just for her.

But first a car will be waiting to take him to tape an interview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: euthanasia; murder; schiavo; schindler; terri
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To: SmoothTalker
Michael's doctors said that she was brain-dead and beyond rehab. The Schindler's doctors believed otherwise. Why couldn't he just divorce her and let the Schindler's take care of her??? Her long-term friends (before Michael) testified that she was very Catholic in her beliefs and wouldn't want to die. In the interest of protecting those who cannot protect themselves, the judge (Michael's friend in the euthanasia movement) should have erred on the side of life. But wait, he had an agenda, the death agenda. This was nothing but a show-type circus for the euthanasia movement. I understand that most people wouldn't want to live the way Terri was. But they are putting themselves into her situation, not considering what she would have wanted. The whole thing was disgusting and I hope those that want the plug to be pulled have put their wishes into writing. There should be a law that if it isn't in writing, then the person should be allowed to live out their life, whatever their physical condition.
41 posted on 03/28/2006 9:16:52 AM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: originalbuckeye

MS probably will not go on any shows who were unsympathetic to him so this question will go unasked or answered.


42 posted on 03/28/2006 9:17:57 AM PST by pnz1
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To: originalbuckeye
That is the glaring question that Michael, nor any of his supporters, have answered. Ms. Schindler was disabled for many years before he sued. Not once, that I have heard, did he say she wouldn't want to live that way. But the minute, the very minute, he got that $750,000, he decided that Ms. Schindler had told him at one time that she would want to be starved to death.

It doesn't make sense if one actually looks at the facts. Why didn't he use that money to at least try to get her to the best re-hab facilities that money could buy? He didn't even try once he had the money.

43 posted on 03/28/2006 9:18:14 AM PST by yellowdoghunter (I sometimes only vote for Republicans because they are not Democrats....by Dr. Thomas Sowell)
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To: Brytani

Agree completely. How I wish he would be asked this question on national television. Sadly all those in the MSM were on his side and would never challenge him.


44 posted on 03/28/2006 9:18:53 AM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: RepubMommy; Calpernia; NYer
Yes, it was mentioned but not frequently.  Supposedly he became a nurse to help Terri, yet he didn't spend a penny of the $800K from the lawsuit to engage her in any physical therapy and allowed her to waste away over the years.  Something tells me he wasn't praying the divine mercy chaplet at the time of her death.   He was probably at the bank counting his compounded interest from the 800 K he received.
 
 

When they say this chaplet in the presence of the dying, I will stand between My Father and the dying person, not as the just Judge but as the Merciful Savior (Diary, 1541).

http://www.nursesfordivinemercy.org/whoare.htm


45 posted on 03/28/2006 9:20:31 AM PST by Coleus (RU-486 Kills babies and their mothers, Bush can stop this as Clinton started through executive order)
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To: originalbuckeye

They were on the View today. Anybody see it?


46 posted on 03/28/2006 9:23:01 AM PST by pnz1
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To: pnz1

Who, Michael and his adulterer wife or the Schlinders?


47 posted on 03/28/2006 9:30:08 AM PST by Brytani
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To: originalbuckeye

Even when the MSM does get a set and question him about why he didn't just divorce Terri, Michael makes himself out to look much worse (if that is even possible).

For those, like me, who are sickened that a man obviously committing adultry should have any say in the care and life of their prior spouse, sit there stunned. He says "you don't throw out a wife just because she's sick".

In his sick and twisted mind you cheat on her, have children with the other woman, then kill your ex-wife because - well you don't throw her out. Sick SOB


48 posted on 03/28/2006 9:32:32 AM PST by Brytani
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To: Brytani

After getting money for her re-hab, which he then used to kill her, (I am sure there was some left that he used to live on), he is still trying to make money off of her by his book. He also set up a PAC to continue to try and make money off Ms. Schindler. He will milk this until his last days.


49 posted on 03/28/2006 9:39:15 AM PST by yellowdoghunter (I sometimes only vote for Republicans because they are not Democrats....by Dr. Thomas Sowell)
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To: yellowdoghunter
We have laws in this country nicknamed "Son of Sam Laws" that basically say a person can not profit financially from a death they caused.

IMO he falls under this....but you're right. He'd sell his soul (if he has one) to make money off of his dead wife. His book, movie deal, paid appearances etc prove that beyond a reasonable doubt.
50 posted on 03/28/2006 9:41:53 AM PST by Brytani
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To: All
I see there is still no answer from those who support Michael as to why he sued if he knew Ms. Schindler wanted to be starved to death all along? Why did he need re-hab money if Ms. Schindler could never have improved????

Still waiting on that answer......

51 posted on 03/28/2006 9:41:55 AM PST by yellowdoghunter (I sometimes only vote for Republicans because they are not Democrats....by Dr. Thomas Sowell)
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To: Brytani; SmoothTalker
She was not on a heart/lung bypass machine, she was not using any assistance of care in breating (no ventilator or trach tube) she was only being given food and water.

Now you may consider food and water to be "life support" however I realize without those two things life would NOT exist on this planet, for any person, animal, plant or organism.

Air is much more necessary than food and water. A few minutes without air and a person is very dead, while deprivation of food and water takes days to kill. And yet we feel no ethical qualms at turning off ventilators, and readily permit it as discontinuation of an "extraordinary measure".

Why the double standard? I cannot easily discern the moral difference of deprivation of air and deprivation of food and water except for the length of the last agony. The end result is infallibly the same.

52 posted on 03/28/2006 10:02:14 AM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: PalestrinaGal0317; SmoothTalker; BlackElk
No one should go through that.

Death by asphyxiation is also cruel. Yet we are permitted to turn off ventilators.

Why?

53 posted on 03/28/2006 10:03:28 AM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Boxsford
She deserved what any other handicapped individual unable to feed themselves and hydrate themselves deserve--food and water.

Why don't people deserve air too?

54 posted on 03/28/2006 10:04:45 AM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: yellowdoghunter
Why would he sue?

An easy chance to hit the lottery and make it to Easy Street. Duh!

55 posted on 03/28/2006 10:07:00 AM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Hermann the Cherusker

We only turn off ventilators on those who have made their wishes know prior to the debilitation. Terri didn't have anything in writing. Michael is a murderer and his lawyers and his judges are accomplices.


56 posted on 03/28/2006 10:07:13 AM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
In this case it is irrelevant as Terri was easily breathing on her own, without assistance.

In cases where a persons brain is "brain dead" truly dead, it is unable to control even the most basic function of involuntary breathing.

Look at three scenarios. First take a person who is in an accident and suffers brain damage. Because of this damage they are unable to breath without assistance. However, through medical intervention, surgery, time, healing they will be able to breath later on. Should a ventilator be disconnected in this case? I say no, as that would be murder.

Second scenario is a person who through accident or illness (a stroke perhaps) their brain does not have the capacity to control breathing. Their autonomic system is shut down from lack of control of the brain. The brain shows no electrical pathways still active. The person displays no gag reflex, no pupil dilation and no change in blood pressure/heartrate in response to stimulus. Their brain is beyond repair and turning off a ventilator will cause the death of the body within minutes to a few hours. In those cases it is permissible to remove the artificial means of support.

Then take the case of Terri Schiavo. She was breathing on her own for years. Her pupils had responsiveness, her blood pressure and heart rate both showed changes via stimulus. While her brain was not "normal" and she had little chance for recovery after all the years spent in her condition, the fact remains her brain was still functioning at a reduced level. With nutrition and general medical care for any infections/illness she may have, she would have lived for many more years.

In fact, her autopsy report clearly states her heart was in great shape for her years, her lungs were also in good shape. Her body was fully capable of performing cellular respiration. She metabolized food and water, metabolized medications and vitamins. She did not need assistance with urination or waste removal. Therefore, she was a living, breathing, person who needed only food water and basic medical care to survive. A long way away from a brain dead person.

Also consider this. A person who has no brain function will die without the ability to breath within minutes, not hours. For those who have basic but impaired brain function, lack of oxygen will kill within hours. She spent two weeks dying from dehydration. I see a huge difference in that, don't you?
57 posted on 03/28/2006 10:22:41 AM PST by Brytani (Someone stole my tagline - reward for its return!!!)
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To: yellowdoghunter
"I see there is still no answer from those who support Michael as to why he sued if he knew Ms. Schindler wanted to be starved to death all along? Why did he need re-hab money if Ms. Schindler could never have improved?" You state a lie, and then want an answer for it?
58 posted on 03/28/2006 10:24:24 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Boxsford; SmoothTalker
She was a human being.

Human beings never turn into 'vegetables' no matter their disability or human condition.

A human being is a compound of body and rational soul, linked through the functioning of the mind and heart. The functional link permits the body to move in response to thought commands and for the mind to act in a rational manner and make free choices. If the soul leaves the body, and the body remains with basic non-motile functions, the person would be a vegetable, enodwed with the same sort of life that vegetative matter has.

Whether this is medically, physically, and theologically possible is quite another question. In theory though, this is a possible explanation for what is termed a vegetative state of existence. One possible way to scientifically explore this would be to investigate the experiences of people who have awoken from comas to determine if they have out of body experiences, where the soul has become detatched from the non-functioning body and is able to regain its motility and freedom of choice as in a dead person.

A very basic question here might revolve around the experience of people who are medically resucitated after the onset of clinical death, and see how their bodily behavior and actions are affected at various stages of the experience, and compare that to people who enter into and persist in a vegetative state, especially those revived into such a state after clincially dying. I'm unaware of any research of this sort though.

59 posted on 03/28/2006 10:26:25 AM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: originalbuckeye

Thats some good kool-aid. Can I try some?


60 posted on 03/28/2006 10:26:52 AM PST by SmoothTalker
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