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Feinstein Calls Illegals Good 'Citizens', Lou Lets Loose
Today Show/NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 03/28/2006 5:20:43 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

by Mark Finkelstein

March 28, 2006

In all its cacophony and moments of absurdity, this morning's Today show segment on immigration was a supremely edifying example of the confusion, high emotion and complexity of the immigration debate. Matters reached their Alice-in-Wonderland apotheosis when Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California was shown in a Senate committee arguing that illegal immigrants are good . . . 'citizens.' Said Feinstein:

"They pay taxes, their children are Americans, they go to schools, they're good citizens and they're needed."

This was in line with the fait accompli argument advanced by La Raza representative Janet Murguia. She referred to what she estimated as the 11-12 million illegal aliens in the country as "people are working in backbreaking work that nobody else wants to do in this country. We need to . . . understand that they are already part of this country."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Mexico; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; amnesty; anarchy; borders; bordersecurity; campbellbrown; dobbs; feinstein; illegalaliens; immigration; laraza; loudobbs; mediabias; nbc; racism; todayshow
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Pandering to the second largest voting block. Expect Je$$e and $harpton to do something $oon to draw attention back to themselves. The lack of attention must be killing them.


61 posted on 03/28/2006 6:10:57 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: maggief

according to Frankstein, they are just showing their american pride......./s


62 posted on 03/28/2006 6:11:02 AM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Sounds like a bushism.....................

the sentiment is the same too...................


63 posted on 03/28/2006 6:11:16 AM PST by WhiteGuy ("Every Generation needs a new revolution" - Jefferson)
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To: Maceman; governsleastgovernsbest

"He's actually right about that. Too many American citizens need to be reminded that there is NO SUCH THING as a right to a job."

Like I said... there are those on the left and the right that would do away with nationalism. Different motivations, same net result.

Bottomline is, the average American is screwed.


64 posted on 03/28/2006 6:11:53 AM PST by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

"... they're good citizens and they're needed to vote illegally for Democrats."

THERE fixed!


65 posted on 03/28/2006 6:12:59 AM PST by poobear (Islam - A Global Lynch Mob !)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican
More American pride ... /sarc.


66 posted on 03/28/2006 6:15:17 AM PST by maggief (and the dessert cart rolls on ...)
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To: blueberry12

Since you openly side with the illegals, you are part of the problem. I only wish you the worst in life and may you feel more comfortable with your brethren over at DU.


67 posted on 03/28/2006 6:15:19 AM PST by ohioman
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To: cripplecreek
"Imagine the futre of America when we become a mixture of Canadian socialism and Mexican feudalism."

Other than Canada's crumbling medicare system, which is changing as we speak to a multi-tiered system, how is Canada nore "socialist" than the USA?

We have welfare, they have welfare, we have old age security, they have old age security. We have medicaid. We have Unemployment insurance, which is actually easier to collect than unemployment insurance is in Canada.

I hate to burst your bubble, but we are just as "socialist" as Canada is. We caught up to them and surpassed them ages ago.

68 posted on 03/28/2006 6:17:34 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: ohioman

We could have solved Californias problems with one MOAB.


69 posted on 03/28/2006 6:17:38 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (To Serve Man......It's a cookbook!)
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To: LS

"As I say, I'm for free trade, but their free-trade agenda equals NO national security."

What I see of the free trade crowd tells me profit trumps EVERYTHING. Need to destabilize the country in order to increase profits? Do it! Need to put Americans out of work and damage our local economy to increase profits? Do it!

Nothing, absolutely nothing outweighs the imperitive to increase profits. (If you make enough money, you can move to whatever country isn't in tatters by the time you're done.)


70 posted on 03/28/2006 6:18:10 AM PST by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: blueberry12

"I find nothing wrong with this statement."

And therein lies the problem. Start with a definition:

illegal - prohibited by law or by official or accepted rules;

So, you support ignoring the law? Now, if I break into your house, and setup a little place in your den... you know, sleeping bag, hot stove. I'm illegal, but don't I have a right to live and be comfortable?


71 posted on 03/28/2006 6:22:05 AM PST by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
"They pay taxes, their children are Americans

She's an idiot!

The Constitution of the United States does not grant citizenship at birth to just anyone who happens to be born within American borders. It is the allegiance (complete jurisdiction) of the child’s birth parents at the time of birth that determines the child’s citizenship--not geographical location. If the United States does not have complete jurisdiction, for example, to compel a child’s parents to Jury Duty–then the U.S. does not have the total, complete jurisdiction demanded by the Fourteenth Amendment to make their child a citizen of the United States by birth. How could it possibly be any other way? The framers succeeded in their desire to define what persons are, or are not, citizens of the United States. They also succeeded in making both their intent and construction clear for future generations of courts and government. Whether our government or courts will start to honor and uphold the supreme law of the land for which they are obligated to by oath, is another very disturbing matter.

http://idexer.com/citizenship.htm
72 posted on 03/28/2006 6:22:14 AM PST by Master of Orion
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To: pawdoggie

"What's amazing to me is that these illegal-soon-to-be-citizens ABSOLUTELY HATE BUSH, even though he's the one trying to put them on a fast track to employment and citizenship."

And that would help prove the point, the profit motive outweighs everything. The republicans are willing to slit their own political throats in order to maximize profits for businesses that wish to use, (abuse?), illegals.


73 posted on 03/28/2006 6:24:19 AM PST by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: brownsfan

With all due respect, that's not how the free market works.

If I'm a building contractor and hire only legal aliens and citizens, my labor costs and therefore my price will be significantly higher than my competition, which is willing to use illegals.

I will not get jobs and I will soon be out of business if I don't follow their lead.

This is exactly what happened to a good friend of mine. His price was undercut 35% by contractors using illegal labor.

Not all those who hire illegals are doing it just to make an extra buck. Many are doing it just to survive in business.

They way out of this is to create new rules that all businesses must follow.


74 posted on 03/28/2006 6:25:59 AM PST by Restorer
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
And what is meant by the term, "citizen" these days? What about those millions of immigrants who have worked hard to meet the law's requirements that qualified them for their becoming "American citizens" and have taken great pride in that accomplishment?

Such a comment by a United States Senator, aside from diminishing those honorable immigrants' accomplishments, is also an affront to the concept of "the rule of law."

75 posted on 03/28/2006 6:28:45 AM PST by loveliberty2
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To: ohioman

Look, you have a problem.

The real enemy is not Mexico. It's the muslim religion. The Mexicans didn't cause 9/11. The muslims did it. You seem to have something mixed up. The Mexicans are simple hard-working people who just want to have a life.


76 posted on 03/28/2006 6:29:11 AM PST by blueberry12
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To: maggief
Even more


77 posted on 03/28/2006 6:29:18 AM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: cripplecreek
This proves how much people in America have lost their education values, are maybe, what history teachers are teaching in the schools.
America has deposited a lot of blood on it's soil and the soil of other country's to maintain its freedom it enjoys today.
Mexico is taking America back, one person at a time. The Mexicans act as though it's their right to just come and be a part of its citizenry without going through the process of legality.
What ever protection we had in America is now gone, we have
been sold out by our reps. and other government Agnese's.
78 posted on 03/28/2006 6:30:29 AM PST by buck61
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To: blueberry12

Then they need to do it LEGALLY.


79 posted on 03/28/2006 6:31:45 AM PST by jbenedic2 (Nothing new for the New York Times)
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To: blueberry12; ohioman

>The real enemy is not Mexico

Right, and reconquista is not the offical policy of most Mexican Politicians.

Look, you have a problem...


80 posted on 03/28/2006 6:31:52 AM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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