Posted on 03/28/2006 4:48:47 AM PST by Liz
The full U.S. Senate today begins debating legislation dealing with what arguably is the most vexing domestic issue facing this country: the crisis of uncontrolled illegal immigration........what its proponents disingenuously refer to as the cause of "undocumented immigrants." It is not about ending legal immigration.
But as the president told new immigrants at a swearing-in ceremony, this is a nation of laws - and "to keep the promise of America, we must enforce the laws of America . . . No one is served by an immigration system that allows large numbers of people to sneak across the border illegally."
After all, 9/11 provided a deadly lesson in how dangerously porous America's borders truly are.
Problem is, what should be done with the 11 million or so illegal immigrants already here - and who continue to enter, mostly from Mexico, at the rate of 500,000 a year?
The House voted last December to criminalize illegal immigrants and those who aid them, as well as businesses that fail to verify the legal status of all employees.
The Senate - and President Bush - favor less-harsh measures.............
Their cause was not helped over the past few days by the hundreds of thousands of demonstrators who took to the streets across the nation to protest any crackdown on illegal immigration. Folks who have been asked to support outsiders seeking to share in the "American dream" likely were shocked by the thousands waving Mexican flags and chanting "Mexico, Mexico."
The marches were provocative...........Is it not reasonable also to see in them an implicit bid to effectively move Mexico's border north?
All the more reason why simply declaring what is illegal to be legal won't work; nor will blanket amnesty do the trick. Yet that essentially is what the Judiciary Committee approved late yesterday...............
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
Very interesting. I would like the same freedom to cross the border at will that the protesters want so I could take advantage of the low cost of living down there when I retire. But, oh, no, the Mexican government has very, very strict rules for immigrants. You can't own land down there, you can't get a job down there, if you are a US gringo. And there is some of the most beautiful undeveloped land down there going to waste. It's a one-way avenida all the way.
B. Mexico has a law which makes it illegal to provide any kind of assistance to the foreign immigrants. Giving money, food, shelter or water can result in a big fine or incarceration.
It sounds to me that Mexico doesn't want any Honduran, or other Central/South American hoarding in on their US bounty.
That cartoon shows us what we need to do. Toss Congress out of their seats and over the fence. We must place people in Congress who will listen to us and fund the protection of our borders!
LET'S CLEAN HOUSE!
Yep! I propose a moratorium on granting Mexican nationals US citizenship until the humanitarian situation is rectified.
Currently the "sacrosanct" US rule of law only is being applied to American citizens. That must be fixed pronto.
Governors and Mayors who think that illegal aliens are a MUST, must get their heads put on straight. I am fed up with their tilted view towards the "undocumenteds".
Yesterday 26,000 "undocumented" children decided to take the day off from school. We need to lock them out of school and send them back where their parents came from.
I would have no problem at all deporting "undocumented" children and telling their parents to follow them back over the border at their own expense.
Can you believe this comparison of Mexican and U.S. immigration laws?
http://www.directory.com.mx/immigration
Talk about a racist legal system...
Outrageous.
"LET'S CLEAN HOUSE!"
I'll bring the mop!
Breaking hard -
MEXICO CITY - Ten million American migrant workers, who entered the country illegally, protested against Mexico's immigration policy. They gathered to tell the Mexican government to 'stick it where the sun don't shine' because Americans were doing jobs Mexicans won't do.
American flags were flown everywhere after the word went out, in English, on most English-speaking radio and TV stations, to meet on street corners with signs written in Spanish. The Mexican government is expected to cave, avoiding old laws and enacting new ones.
BTTT
OK, did I hear you say "underdeveloped countries?" The government of Mexico---with all of its oil revenue----needs to be taking care of its own people, not "outsourcing' them as wards of American taxpayers. Mexico can well-afford it. Mexico has more "Forbes" billionaires, 11, than all but eight other nations. It has more billionaires than Saudi Arabia, Switzerland or Taiwan. It also has more than 85,000 millionaires.
Mexico is a very racist, very bifurcated "society". I can't really use the word "culture", because that implies the singular.
You almost never hear of "people from Mexico" being called anything other than "Mexicans" -- at least, you don't hear it in this country.
In Mexico, though, it's a different matter. A very different matter.
Have you noticed how Senor Fox doesn't "look like a Mexican" (or even have a "Mexican-sounding" name?)
In Mexico, there are two classes -- one, fairly small, very wealthy, and powerful (they run the country!), and, another class, very poor, with essentially no rights, no power, no hope -- other than "crossing the Rio Grande".
Fox and the rest of the ruling class call themselves "Spanish"; the "underclass" -- the folks given nice colorful comicbooks with directions on sneaking across the border, printed up courtesy of the "Spanish" who run the government -- these folks are called "Mestizos" -- and here, they're called "Mexicans."
The "Spanish" don't sneak across the border. When they come to the USA, it's via jet plane, with the red carpet laid out before them upon arrival. They are the heads of state and industry.
The "Spanish" have decided to knock off a few birds with one stone. By "exporting their underclass" to us, they are freed from any obligation to care for them on their own -- and more significantly, they are relieved of the worry of revolt. The "Spanish" work diligently to focus the "Mestizo" anger against "the gringo nation", and, have propagandized them to accept the idea that by coming here in sufficient numbers, they will be able to "reconquer" the land for Mexico.
In a way, the process is chillingly similar to the brainwashing in the middle east, that convinces their underclass to strap on a suicide belt and get on the bus.
In both cases, it's a win-win for the "uberclass" -- they get their unwanted underclass to do the dirty work, and, they get rid of them in the process!
Eventually, the hope is that the invaders (or cast-offs, depending on one's perspective) will succeed in some measure of "reconquista", and Mexico will be in a position to impose terms of surrender. The underclass, sent out as "footsoldiers of the revolution", will -- by that plan -- succeed in taking back the land for the mother country -- and then, they'll be back to square one: unwanted Mestizos. But shhhhh! Don't tell them that! It might piss 'em off, and get 'em mad at the "Spanish" who have chumped 'em up as an army of "useful idiots."
Meanwhile, on "our" side of the border, we are hamstrung by deep-pocketed lobbies, who are intent on maintaining their supply of what might politely be termed "slave labor". And, in government, we have "sport-politicos" (nearly all politicians, it seems), who have realized that thanks to "motor-voter", the tens of millions of illegals make a handy dandy "constituency."
The rest of us, I guess, can go piss up a rope.
Appropriate tagline, Buddy...
The "Spanish" ruling class wants to export their poor Mestizo underclass and make them our problem, so that they can enjoy a Mexico that has been "improved" by the exodus.
Consider it a form of American-sponsored "ethnic cleansing" -- because that's exactly what it is.
They don't want their Mestizo underclass around, and they certainly don't want any gringos around. They are a very proud, arrogant people, seeing themselves as far superior to the useful idiots they export to engage in a "reconquista" quest, and, the useful idiots who welcome the invaders.
Actually there is a new hyphenate: The "New-American".
We are now one of the largest Spanish-speaking nations in the world. We're a major source of Latin music, journalism and culture. Just go to Miami, or San Antonio, Los Angeles, Chicago or West New York, New Jersey ... and close your eyes and listen. You could just as easily be in Santo Domingo or Santiago, or San Miguel de Allende. For years our nation has debated this change -- some have praised it and others have resented it. By nominating me, my party has made a choice to welcome the new America. As I speak, we are celebrating the success of democracy in Mexico. George Bush from a campaign speech in Miami, August 2000. |
Here is an excerpt of a good critique of that speech:
In equating our intimate historic bonds to our mother country and to Canada with our ties to Mexico, W. shows a staggering ignorance of the civilizational facts of life. The reason we are so close to Britain and Canada is that we share with them a common historical culture, language, literature, and legal system, as well as similar standards of behavior, expectations of public officials, and so on. My Bush Epiphany By Lawrence Auster
Nice take. Thanks. Will repost on today's threads.
Nice contribution to the thread......thanks.
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