Posted on 03/28/2006 4:41:04 AM PST by billorites
Mexicans cheered the proposal approved yesterday by the Senate Judiciary Committee to legalize undocumented migrants and provide temporary work visas, and credited huge marches of migrants across the United States as the decisive factor behind the vote.
Mexican President Vicente Fox said the vote was the result of five years of work dating to the start of his presidential term in 2000, and puts Mexico one step closer toward the government’s goal of “legalization for everyone” who works in the United States.
“My recognition and respect for all the Hispanics and all the Mexicans who have made their voice heard,” Fox said. “We saw them turn out this weekend all across the United States, and that’s going to count for a lot as we move forward.”
Some Mexican media outlets were even more euphoric, predicting final approval for the committee bill as drafted, and suggesting the weekend demonstrations showed Mexico still holds some sway over former territories which it lost in the 1846-48 Mexican-American War.
“With all due respect to Uncle Sam, this shows that Los Angeles has never stopped being ours,” reporter Alberto Tinoco said on the Televisa television network’s nightly news broadcast, referring to a Saturday march in Los Angeles that drew an estimated 500,000, mainly Mexicans.
But U.S. ambassador Tony Garza warned Mexicans yesterday that the proposal still faces a long, difficult path through Congress.
“The debate will no doubt be heated and at times contentious,” Garza wrote in an open letter distributed in Mexico City. “The debate in the Senate is only one part of the lengthy process.”
The bill is designed to strengthen enforcement of U.S. borders, regulate the flow into the country of so-called guest workers and determine the legal future of the estimated 11 million immigrants living in the United States illegally.
The bill would double the Border Patrol and authorizes a “virtual wall” of unmanned vehicles, cameras and sensors to monitor the U.S.-Mexico border. It also allows more visas for nurses and agriculture workers, and shelters humanitarian organizations from prosecution if they provide non-emergency assistance to illegal residents.
The most controversial provision would permit illegal aliens currently in the country to apply for citizenship without first having to return home, a process that would take at least six years.
Fox has been pushing for a migration accord that would grant some form of legal status to many of the estimated 6 million undocumented Mexicans in the United States. He is likely to bring up the topic when he meets with President Bush starting Thursday in Cancun.
Although a bill granting amnesty to illegal immigrants is unlikely to be approved by Congress, Fox remains hopeful that at least a guest-worker program will be put in place before he leaves office on Dec. 1.
If the United States approves such a program, it would bolster Fox’s image and aid the prospects of Felipe Calderon, presidential candidate for Fox’s National Action Party, or PAN, said George Grayson, a Mexico expert at the College of William & Mary.
“Fox is looking for some way to be remembered in history,” Grayson said.
Illegal migration has emerged as a significant issue in the campaigns of Mexico’s three major presidential hopefuls for the July 2 elections, and the United States has asked Mexico to do more to strengthen security along their common border.
I think the Senate just telegraphed who they really represent.....and it ain't any taxpayin' peon. Some former US-now multi-national corp run by a pack of Ivy League traitors makin their 401k's are now writing out their
"campaign donations" tonight.
That would be OK, although I find your use of the term "internment camps" a bit melodramatic, since we are discussing prisons, in which we would be incarcerating criminals.
If that's not OK, then we've got an even bigger problem on our hands, what with the million or more criminals already incarcerated (or "interned", if you prefer the dramatics). I suppose we'll need to give them "guest worker" papers (and release them!) too?
Now, as to the part you can't seem to wrap your mind around -- what to do with them after they're apprehended. This is so easy I have to do a reality check to see if you're trolling us.
All we need to do is DEPORT them when they're picked up. It's not like they're some national treasure that we need to keep in inventory.
Hell, if that's too much of a "strain on the system", then start light -- just deport ONE out of ever TEN that are found.
As it stands now, the police are so hamstrung that being an illegal alien is pretty much a "get out of jail free" card. The cops can't do a bloody thing about 'em!
There's NO problem finding them, in any quantity desired.
So, start light. Just bust TEN PERCENT of them, and deport them ASAP.
I guarantee you the rest of 'em will be having problems in the lower digestive tract as they sit there wondering if THEY will be the next criminal to snag the brass ring.
Probably won't take long before there are more illegals FLEEING the country than there are entering it.
But, these are solutions -- VIABLE solutions. And "solutions" do NOT seem to be what "our leaders" are casting about for. What they are doing is trying to come up with increasingly creative ways to convince us that an amnesty "is not an amnesty."
No one does, what with "the pee word" included in the criteria.
That's because the political agenda runs COUNTER to solving the problem.
The ONLY thing that will pass political muster is an AMNESTY.
The "interests" that buy and pay for "our" government do NOT intend to let slip away what to them is a "valuable resource". And, now that the size of that "resource" has grown to the size of a large "constituency" (thanks to "motor-voter"), the politicians have another reason to be unwilling to accept any "solution" that does NOT include an amnesty.
These are brutal facts -- but they are facts.
The bottom line is that we're rapidly approaching the point at which we will be in the position of any defeated and occupied nation, namely, we will be forced to try to negotiate "terms of surrender" that are as as tolerable as possible.
When the basic premise is that there are something like twenty MILLION invaders "in-country", and, if we do NOT give them some kind of peace-offering, they will have the means to make us pay dearly for our insolence, then face it, folks -- it's "stick a fork in it" time.
The ONLY alternative is for us to grow a backbone, and take back our country from the invaders.
And right now, frankly, I am seeing the "GOP" as something more akin to "The Vichy Republican Party" than any kind of "Grand" party.
What I am hearing is basically a series of arguments that boil down to, "Well, we HAVE to 'work with' them, because they're HERE, and they can hurt us if we give them any trouble. And besides, there's money to be made by working with them, so it's not that bad being an occupied country."
The Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 (IIRIRA) created a new, formal process for deportation called expedited removal. This process was established by Congress to remove certain inadmissible aliens from the United States. The law authorized the Commissioner of the Immigration and Naturalization Service to designate certain groups of individuals for placement in expedited removal proceedings. Under expedited removal, individuals can be removed on an order issued by an INS officer. The U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) began implementing the expedited removal provisions of IIRIRA on April 1, 1997.
Term definition: "THEM"
When I speak of "them", I am speaking of illegal invaders, whose loyalty is to their home country, which is headed by a despot intent on pushing massive numbers of his underclass into our country. They have an agenda of "reconquista", and, they have made amazing progress toward that goal.
This has nothing to do with "ethnicity", do don't anyone even think of going there.
Any incumbent who voted for this should be gone. Of course, we won't get to vote against McCain until 2008. But my then they might be able to direct ten million or so grateful illegals to vote GOP and elect him.
Yup, and not just the Mexicans, now every other two-bit terrorist, slacker, and every other undesirable will be flooding into our country so they too can take advantage of Amnesty.
Politics in the pure sense is the "art of the possible" in a non-dictorial society. Saddam, for example, had no problem enforcing his will in the pre-OIF period.
Undeniably, there is a lot of special interest involvement in this. I do not question that.
My initial query still remains. I know what I would prefer as a solution. But given the reality of the constraints that exist, my solution would not be acceptable.
Oh, no, perish the thought!
After all that the politicians have done to our country, I have nothing but the utmost honor, respect, and admiration for them.
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So what do we do to prevent that?
You are not even trying to respond intelligently. That is unfortunate.
I don't understand how you can make that claim. It comes from disgust from being involved in Government for over 30 years. This is what I see on a daily basis. Perhaps you are responding from ignorance or partial ignorance.
I asked if anyone had a specific plan and all you do is bitch which does not constitute a plan of action.
Any room on the pompous bus? I have a feeling I will be joining you soon. Hope I'm welcome.
The Caucasian Mexican ruling elite once again sigh with relief knowing that their power is intact at least for as long as they can send their brown peons to the Norte. Nah, no racism there!
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