Counterfeit Conservative

The American Conservative ^ | Doug Bandow

[Killborn]

I know that even among his most ardent supporters, his borders policy leaves a lot to be desired. I'm not entirley enamoured with his stance and action on them myself, and that includes the wide open Canadian border. (Oh wait, there is a Canadian border?)

But what I will not tolerate under any circumstnce is slanders and lies. What you said, if done out of knowledge, is an outright lie.

"America is a nation of immigrants, and we're also a nation of laws. All of you are here because you followed the rules and you waited your turn in the citizenship line. Yet some violate our immigration laws and enter our country ILLEGALLY, and that undermines the system for all of us."

"No one is served by an immigration system that allows large numbers of people to sneak across the border ILLEGALLY."

"ILLEGAL immigration puts a strain on law enforcement and public resources, especially in our border communities. Our nation is also fighting a war on terror, and terrorists crossing the border could create destruction on a massive scale. The responsibility of government is clear: We must enforce the border."

"Through the Arizona Border Control Initiative we apprehended more than 600,000 ILLEGAL immigrants in Arizona last year."

All emphasis mine. These excerpts were from a speech today by the President. He used the words "ILLEGAL" and its variant numerous times to describe the daily ILLEGAL entry of the U.S. Regardless of what one thinks of his policies, he stated clearly that these are illegal acts and immigrants. He was not "scared to even call these people illegals".

I will not tolerate bull$hit from the left or the right. My entire formative years I have been lied to by those who pretend to have my best interests at heart while seeking to defame and subjugate a great nation. I would expect A LOT more from those who are purportedly fighting for America.

[Spiff]

VOTE REPUBLICAN. Only because it's better than the alternative.

Ain't buying that Kool-Aid.

[penowa]

McCain...whom I have few doubts will be the Republican party's offering for President in '08.

Did I hear you correctly? Was that President Hillary you said?

[mugs99]

According to Business Week, the average CEO made 42 times the average blue-collar worker's pay when Reagan was president, 531 times now. What happened to "trickle down" economics?

[mugs99]

Do you expect better of politicians?

Yes, I do. If we don't expect better we are going to continue down this road to serfdom.
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[RHINO369]

"Who?"

Vote for conservatives in Republican primaries. If they lose, then vote third party just to show the republican party your aren't the republican version of black democratic base. If you vote republican no matter what, why do you think republicans will listen to you? If republicans run a moderate in 2008, don't vote for him, sure 4-8 years of a democrat is bad, but if we don't, we will forever have two parties, democrats, and democrats light.

[groanup]

See my #40.

[groanup]

Yeah, right. 8 years of left wackos appointing judges who do their legislating for them for life.

[mugs99]

The FEC won't even let other parties take part in presidential debates.

The two party system is a hoax. We are living under the dictate of a single system. That other parties are kept out of presidential debates is absolute proof of that.
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[truth_seeker]

“Left-wing politicians take away your liberty in the name of children and of fighting poverty, while right-wing politicians do it in the name of family values and fighting drugs. Either way, government gets bigger and you become less free."....Harry Browne.

After 9/11/2001 Browne blamed it on America. He was a POS.

[aSkeptic]

When we ALL quit voting for them. End of story.

Amen

Personally there is not one incumbent in my district that I will reelect. Vote them all out!

[joesnuffy]

You probably don't want to be any kind of eater at any public trough...government or otherwise...when she folds...

God help and protect our disabled combat veterans...in the coming new world odor that was once a fine nation...

Unless our gutless leaders step up...I dont see any of them actually finding any courage other than the bold feathering their own nests and eviscerating the economy as greedily as they can before they too are forced to bail.

Term Limits....we are in dire need of Term Limits...

imo

[Euro-American Scum]

Term Limits....we are in dire need of Term Limits...

I don't think even term limits will help now.

[RHINO369]

"Yeah, right. 8 years of left wackos appointing judges who do their legislating for them for life."

Do you think weak moderate republicans will hold the presidency forever. Bush barely beat two of the most liberal candidates the US has ever seen. A good conservative republican fighting on good issues would have beat gore and kerry by more than -1% and 4%. Bush couldn't beat gore and kerry on the major issues because I guess bush agreed with them.

[misterrob]

Ah, using the old percentages game to make a point. Reagan built up the military and also managed to cut taxes while digging us out of the hole that Nixon and Carter had gotten us into.

As a POTUS with a democrat controlled Congress, he did okay in my book.

[misterrob]

Corporations do not. However, when they lobby for protection, tax relief and less regulation they get it by dangling that jobs issue.

[misterrob]

Stock as compensation, that's how.

[delacoert]

Thank you, math degree.

Heh.

If a math degree is required, then woe is me.

[mugs99]

After 9/11/2001 Browne blamed it on America.
He blamed it on our foreign policy. He was right. Our Department of State has been out of control since Carter was president. Our foreign policy gave Iran to the terrorists who are now building nukes there. The terrorist movement that attacked us on 911 grew out of that foreign policy disaster. Our foreign policy gave Palestine to HAMAS. Our foreign policy gave our ports away. Our foreign policy keeps our borders open.

He was a POS
He was a loyal patriot who couldn't be bribed. I think you have the wrong POS in mind.
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[delacoert]

...but those Chinese and Indian people that people like to gripe about are cleaning our clocks when it comes to engineering talent.

Well...

...I guess it depends on whether or not "those Chinese and Indian people" are truely immigrants to the USA.