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Army Transfers Could Trigger A Gang War (Fort Bliss Texas)
New York Sun ^ | March 16, 2006 | JOSH GERSTEIN

Posted on 03/27/2006 9:35:23 AM PST by Travis McGee

Law enforcement authorities fear that the planned relocation of thousands of Army soldiers in Texas could trigger a battle the military has not trained for - a turf war between violent criminal gangs. Local police and FBI officials said they expect the transfer of between 10,000 and 20,000 troops to Fort Bliss near El Paso, Texas, to bring more members of the Folk Nation gang into contact with a criminal group that is already well-established in the area, Barrio Azteca. "What we have started looking at is which military units are going to be moving to El Paso," an FBI agent there, Andrea Simmons, said in an interview. "There is a potential for more gang activity, whether it be soldiers, or dependents and families of soldiers." Ms. Simmons said some gangs actually direct members to join the military to learn how to handle weapons. "The intelligence that we have thus far indicates that they may try to recruit young people who have clean records and encourage them to keep their record clean to get into the military. They would get great weapons training and other types of training and access to weapons and arms, and be able to use that knowledge," she said. "They're taking training that is great and very altruistic and turning around and using it for criminal activity."

(Excerpt) Read more at nysun.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; barrioazteca; folknation; fortbliss; gangactivity; military; texas
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1 posted on 03/27/2006 9:35:26 AM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee

What is the 'folk nation'?


2 posted on 03/27/2006 9:38:14 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: afnamvet; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; antisocial; archy; backhoe; Badray; Bernard Marx; B4Ranch; t_skoz; ...

Interesting story bump.


3 posted on 03/27/2006 9:39:05 AM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee
Interesting problem.
What's stopping the authorities from wiping out the gangs now?

Jail or deport them...

4 posted on 03/27/2006 9:39:29 AM PST by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: Publius6961

We violate the Mara Salvatrucha's Civil Rights when we prevent them from cutting their rivals' heads off.


5 posted on 03/27/2006 9:41:11 AM PST by Utahrd
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To: Travis McGee

Un-freakin'-believable! I never thought Texas would put up with what has happened to that state. Whites are soon to be a minority. I guess Texas is really becoming, "a whole other country".


6 posted on 03/27/2006 9:41:37 AM PST by yellowdoghunter (I sometimes only vote for Republicans because they are not Democrats....by Dr. Thomas Sowell)
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To: Travis McGee
This seems like a pretty weak article. The author never says why moving people to Ft. Bliss will cause unique problems (as opposed to moving them to some other post). And he doesn't say whether moving people out of some posts (like Ft. Hood) will reduce gang problems there.

He paints a scary image of gang members who join the military for training, but this maybe be more of an imaginary problem than a real one -- he doesn't give a single example of a soldier who mis-used military training to help a gang.

7 posted on 03/27/2006 9:42:04 AM PST by 68skylark
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To: stuartcr

Check this out:

http://www.gangwar.com/dynamics.htm


8 posted on 03/27/2006 9:43:05 AM PST by Mathews (Shot... Splash... Out!)
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To: stuartcr

According to the story, "Folk Nation" is a part of Chicago's "Gangster Disciples" mega gang.


9 posted on 03/27/2006 9:44:57 AM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: stuartcr
What is the 'folk nation'?

It's a confederation of gangs, Disciples and Crips are "Folk", Vice Lords and Bloods are "People".

10 posted on 03/27/2006 9:45:09 AM PST by cryptical (Who you tryin' to get crazy with ese? Don't you know I'm loco?)
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To: Travis McGee

This is a very curious article. Why would the FBI, which generally won't even comment on any future possibility ('Speculation, we have no comment.' is about as much as they will say.) is being positively chatty about the potential eruption of gang wars due to the U S Army shuffling units into Bliss? I cannot help but believe there is some sort of hidden agenda being played out here. perhaps it is inly a CYA action by the SAIC at El Paso or a ploy to use this event to try and get more agents assigned to what must be one of the most overworked and shorthanded FBI offices.


11 posted on 03/27/2006 9:45:11 AM PST by robowombat
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To: Travis McGee
Ms. Simmons said some gangs actually direct members to join the military to learn how to handle weapons. "The intelligence that we have thus far indicates that they may try to recruit young people who have clean records and encourage them to keep their record clean to get into the military.
BS. A stealth gang banger? BS. And all that just to learn how to handle a weapon? BS.
12 posted on 03/27/2006 9:45:37 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: yellowdoghunter
"Whites are soon to be a minority."

I think they already are. I heard several months ago that Hispanics were now the majority in Texas.

carolyn

13 posted on 03/27/2006 9:46:08 AM PST by CDHart
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To: Mathews

Thanks for the info. I have a hard time comprehending the mindset of these people.


14 posted on 03/27/2006 9:47:21 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Travis McGee

Thanks


15 posted on 03/27/2006 9:48:27 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: yellowdoghunter

We're well on our way to becoming another turd-world hellhole, y. La Reconquista is rounding the midway marker on the track.


16 posted on 03/27/2006 9:48:38 AM PST by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage)
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To: cryptical

Thanks


17 posted on 03/27/2006 9:48:58 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: yellowdoghunter
Un-freakin'-believable! I never thought Texas would put up with what has happened to that state. Whites AMERICANS are soon to be a minority. I guess Texas is really becoming, "a whole other country".
18 posted on 03/27/2006 9:49:18 AM PST by joesnuffy
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To: joesnuffy

Thanks for the correction. I should have said, English speaking, American-loving, freedom-loving, God-fearing people!


19 posted on 03/27/2006 9:51:06 AM PST by yellowdoghunter (I sometimes only vote for Republicans because they are not Democrats....by Dr. Thomas Sowell)
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To: yellowdoghunter
Whites are soon to be a minority. I guess Texas is really becoming, "a whole other country".

Boo-freakin'-hoo. The same thing was said about my Italian forebearers - that they weren't of the same white, Anglo-Saxon Protestant stock as native Americans, that we were losing our country, etc.

Just proof positive that, behind many rants against "illegal aliens" is racism against Hispanics.

20 posted on 03/27/2006 9:55:24 AM PST by jude24 ("The Church is a harlot, but she is my mother." - St. Augustine)
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