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Saddam Regime Document Dated January 2003: The French and German Connections (Translation)
Pentagon/FMOS website about Iraq PreWar documents ^ | March 27 2006 | jveritas

Posted on 03/27/2006 7:26:09 AM PST by jveritas

Edited on 03/27/2006 8:12:49 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

In this document ISGZ-2004-028179 there is a report by the Assistant of the Iraqi Intelligence Director to his boss “The Director” dated January/23/2003 regarding the visit of one German and one Frenchman to Iraq and these two guys talk about their strong relation with the top government officials in both France and Germany. In this letter the German that German Chancellor Schroeder was totally opposed to the idea of the war in Iraq and it his opposition to the possible war that made him win the German elections held in 2002. Also there is an important part of the letter where it mention the visit of German Chancellor to meet with the Chinese Prime minister and that the Chinese PM told Schroeder “about the information that was obtained by the Chinese intelligence and it says that Iraq has moved his mass of destruction weapon to Syria and the German Chancellor told him that the German intelligence did not indicate this. And after two days the US state secretary went to Damascus to check on this with the Syrian government that in turn denied this news.” Also in the letter it show the fear of the French to join the war because of the heavy losses that will suffer..

Beginning of the Translation of 4 pages report in document ISGZ-2004-028179

In the Name of God the Most Compassionate The Most Merciful

The Republic of Iraq

The Intelligence Apparatus

The respectful Mr Director of the Apparatus

Subject: The Frenchman Le Floch and the German Dieter Holzer

In the date of 10/1/2003 the two mentioned above arrived to the country in visit for two days only and they did during their stay with the following activities:

1. They met with the deputy of the Industry and minerals ministry and they spoke with him about the possibility of building the non working factories since the year 1991 and provide the country with the spare parts that the ministry needs in the domain of industry.

2. They met with Mr. Ghazi Faysal the chairman of the department First Political Department in the foreign ministry and they spoke with him about the following subjects:

A. The German Holtzer confirmed that Chancellor Shroeder does not like the Leader President but he still oppose the war and it is because of his stand on this he won the latest elections and in case his stand changes this will lead to his loss of the Chancellery and that he hot replacement is ready to win the position and he is the economy minister the German Clement from the ruling Socialist German Party.

B. He mentioned that a meeting in Beijing in the beginning of this month was held between the Prime minister of China and the German Chancellor Schroeder in the occasion of the opening project for the fast train and the latter was asked about the information that was obtained by the Chinese intelligence and it says that Iraq has moved his mass of destruction weapon to Syria and the German Chancellor told him that the German intelligence did not indicate this. And after two days the US state secretary went to Damascus to check on this with the Syrian government that in turn denied this news..

C. He suggested the idea of bringing the Pope John Paul II to visit the country because this visit cause Bush Junior to lose his balance and that he has good relation with the originally German (Ratzinger) in the Vatican and that the latter has influence has influence through waving the card of the financial support that Germany give to the Vatican and it is estimated to be (around 6 billions dollars yearly).

D. He indicated that Chirac became a honorary President of Europe not through elections but through popularity since most of the countries of Europe oppose the war but this man is not courageous and he needs the support of Iraq and for example present what proves that his weapons of mass destruction were destroyed.

C. He express the readiness of French and German companies to execute projects in Iraq as long as the necessary moneys are guaranteed to execute these projects because its revenue decreased lately due the decrease of oil exports.

3.In our meeting with the German Holzer he spoke about the following subjects:

A. He was shown a secret report prepared by the French Army Chief of Staff who presented to Jacques Chirac warning him of the losses that the French troops suffered in Spain and Germany during Napoleon campaigns because the participation of France in the possible war against Iraq will let her suffer huge human losses because it is impossible getting the Iraqi President by aerial bombing and that the entering in street fights will be a disaster for them

B. He intend to buy a residential house in Baghdad under the name of his wife where as his wife is Palestinian and that he visited one of the houses in Arsat and he paid the house own (150) 150 thousand dollars but the latter asked for 300 thousand dollars.

4. Opinion:

A. There phone has been wiretapped for surveillance and they were followed and also the there was phone wiretap of the Syrian Jamal Saba for surveillance because they vist him and to control their relations and we will show the results later.

B. The Paris station informed us that they were coming to the country to prepare for a visit by the ex-German economy minister with a delegation of German companies to the country for commercial purposes and their visit to the country was shortened because this is not the first time we have doubts about their real intentions toward the country.

C. We prpose to continue in following them inside the country and direct the Paris station with the necessity to put them under an operation of check up and verification and observe their connections.

For your review Yours… with regards

The Assistant for the Director of Intelligence

23/1/2003

End of translation


TOPICS: Breaking News; Germany; War on Terror
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To: jveritas

"Froggy is a delusional person as most French are. They have this delusional sense of greatness and glory where in reality they have been a second rated power on all levels for the last 90 years."


It seems that just about the only thing that gets the French fired up is when some French speaking former colonial African territory threatens to implode. That seems to snap them out of their ennui!


141 posted on 03/27/2006 1:49:34 PM PST by james500
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To: james500

LOL... exactly right.


142 posted on 03/27/2006 1:54:29 PM PST by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: justa-hairyape

Very good summary and conclusion.


143 posted on 03/27/2006 1:56:02 PM PST by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: justa-hairyape
"I think their ranking on that recent world average IQ test, may need some revision."
Sure looks like you hit it on the nail. Throw in the russkies for a nice threesome. Their royal screw ups continue to make it easy for the goons of the world to play really dangerous games.
144 posted on 03/27/2006 2:36:09 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: jveritas

Thank you.
Again.


145 posted on 03/27/2006 5:23:48 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Money will buy you a fine dog but only love can make it wag it's tail :o)
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To: Liberty Valance

Anytime :)


146 posted on 03/27/2006 6:07:49 PM PST by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: jveritas; nutmeg

bump


147 posted on 03/27/2006 6:50:30 PM PST by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: jveritas

"In fact I am working quiet hard in my regular engineering job :) I have been doing the vast majority of the translations after the work hours, staying up very late at night, and then post it either that same night or the second day."

Thank you very much for all the hard work on translating these documents.


148 posted on 03/27/2006 7:21:55 PM PST by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: jveritas; All

All of this business about France and oil reminded me of another line of research that was happening last fall. This is in regard to the forged Niger documents and Joe Wilson. We had a couple of very interesting articles posted by paperjam on her research into the huge oil interests France had in Iraq to keep the US out and to get the sanctions lifted.

Is this the "French Connection" we were looking for?
Self | 30 October, 2005 | Paperjam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1515785/posts

One of the oil companies in Gabon (AF's note: Wilson was ambassador to Gabon) is one called Elf. On Oct. 29, 1997 Elf Gabon reported a new onshore discovery and at the time they had a 60 % stake in the development, in association with the Gabonese government, which retains the remaining 40%.
See: http://www.gasandoil.com/goc/discover/dix75048.htm
However, as of 1996 the company was already hurting by reduced output in their other wells and the country was in trouble with imports becoming so cheap that in-country manufacturing fell to very low levels. Elf was rocked by allegations of slush funds and corruption and a trail of the executives of Elf, which concluded in Paris just last year told a story of slush funds and misappropriation going back for decades.
See: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/3733578.stm
In 1999, Total merged with Fina and Elf to form TotalFinaElf. More on this to follow!
See: http://www.total.com/en/press/press_releases/pr_1999/990723_board_elf_aquitaine_meets_1898.htm
This is where it gets interesting.
“One day after President Bush's demand that Iraq comply with United Nations arms control resolutions, three French parliamentary deputies flew to Iraq on what they described as a personal visit to urge Baghdad to comply with the demands.
The visit set off a political storm in France, where much is riding on the outcome of the diplomatic struggle over Iraq. While a humanitarian gesture, the trip also illustrated in part how countries are positioning themselves for an end of trade penalties. One of the three legislators, Thierry Mariani, 44, of President Jacques Chirac's Union for a Presidential Majority, told French television that the purpose of the trip was to urge Iraqi compliance with the United Nations' demands. But he was also quoted in Le Monde as justifying the trip with "the defense of French economic interests in Iraq."
Last year, France ranked No. 1 among European countries doing business with Iraq, with $1.5 billion in trade, followed by Italy, with $1 billion. Among the countries that trade with Iraq under the oil-for-food program, France ranked third, with $3.1 billion in trade since the program's start 1996. French trade under the program was surpassed only by Russia, with $4.3 billion, and Egypt, according to United Nations diplomats.
The French oil giant TotalFinaElf has the largest position in Iraq, with exclusive negotiating rights to develop Majnoon, a field on the Iranian border with estimated reserves of 10 billion barrels, and Bin Umar, with an estimated production potential of 440,000 barrels a day, according to oil industry executives.”
See: http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/oil/2002/0919threats.htm
“French oil giant TotalFinaElf has exclusive exploration contracts worth €60bn - €75bn to develop the massive Majnoon and Bin Umar oilfields in southern Iraq,” said David Perle former US Assistant Defense Secretary before Saddam was ousted. “What’s distinctive about the Total contract is that it’s not favourable to Iraq, it’s favourable to Total.” He said oil experts who had analyzed the deal described it as “extraordinarily lopsided” in favour of the French company with the well connected Canadian shareholders. The one thing Perle didn’t know was that this very lucrative deal was contingent on UN sanctions being lifted, a move that assured Saddam a lot of support at the UN, especially if he was entering contracts with big payofffs like this.
See: http://www.vivelecanada.ca/article.php/2005032901363934
As of September 2003, TotalFinaElf officially became Total.
Now known as TOTAL, after a name change from TotalFinaElf, the company is the world's fifth largest integrated oil and gas company. It is based in Paris, operates in 120 countries with exploration and production activity in 44 countries and production in 27. The company has 2.4 million barrels per day of production, which compares with 4.2 million barrels daily for Exxon Mobil Corp. and 3.5 million barrels/day for BP plc. The company has 11.2 billion barrels of reserves and has been averaging a 2.5 percent annual growth in production but saw a 10 percent increase between 2001 and 2002.
The new TOTAL was created through two successive mergers, the first when the former Total joined with Belgian oil company Petrofina to form Totalfina, and the second when Totalfina combined with French oil company Elf Aquitaine to create TotalFinaElf. The new company reflects this prestigious Franco-Belgian oil and gas heritage, whose origins go back to the 1920s. The dynamic synthesis of the three companies’ corporate cultures and expertise represents a wealth of technological and human capabilities that favorably position Total to help invent the future of energy.
See: http://www.mbendi.co.za/coto.htm

and
Expanding the French Connection
Self ^ | Friday, November 04, 2005 | Paperjam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1515785/posts


149 posted on 03/27/2006 7:37:04 PM PST by Albertafriend
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To: Kimberly GG; jveritas; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Also there is an important part of the letter where it mention the visit of German Chancellor to meet with the Chinese Prime minister and that the Chinese PM told Schroeder “about the information that was obtained by the Chinese intelligence and it says that Iraq has moved his mass of destruction weapon to Syria and the German Chancellor told him that the German intelligence did not indicate this. And after two days the US state secretary went to Damascus to check on this with the Syrian government that in turn denied this news.”

What we have is the Germans saying they no INDICATIONS that the WMDs have been moved to Syria.

1. This is not the same as saying it has not in fact happened.

2. This seems to have the Germans assuming the existence of the WMDs.

3. It does not have the Germans denying the existence of the WMDs.

150 posted on 03/27/2006 8:03:22 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It. Pray for Our Troops!)
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To: xzins
All this indicate that the Germans and the Chinese and the whole world believed Saddam had WMD all the way till the end. The mantra of the Left that Bush Lied to us to go to war with Iraq is the biggest lie of all and this documents and others will destroy the Left lies.
151 posted on 03/27/2006 8:42:45 PM PST by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: jveritas
Check out this:

Security Watchtower

152 posted on 03/27/2006 9:28:04 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

All right :)


153 posted on 03/27/2006 9:32:51 PM PST by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: jveritas

Way to go.....excellent work!


154 posted on 03/27/2006 9:39:51 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: jveritas
Any chance I could get you (or someone) to peek at this?
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It's from this one.
Thanks in advance.
155 posted on 03/27/2006 11:33:17 PM PST by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: jveritas

Thanks so much for taking the time and the dedication to translate these documents for us. You go down in my book as a hero.


156 posted on 03/28/2006 8:23:46 AM PST by Galveston Grl (Getting angry and abandoning power to the Democrats is not a choice.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

That is the chance for Republicans to respond that the Lib/msm is only upset because it is turning out that the documents prove Saddam had WMD and also was working with Binny boy. If they don't respond like this - they are absolute idiots!

Liberals lied, soldiers died.


157 posted on 03/28/2006 8:26:41 AM PST by Galveston Grl (Getting angry and abandoning power to the Democrats is not a choice.)
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To: Allegra; Becki; Calpernia; Cap Huff; Coop; Dog; Deetes; Gucho; iso; jmc1969; mickie; pissant; ...

ping


158 posted on 03/28/2006 8:53:14 AM PST by Wiz
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To: Wiz

I assume you about as unsuprised as I am about the backstabbing euro-trash.


159 posted on 03/28/2006 8:54:57 AM PST by pissant
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To: RandallFlagg

This is an Iraq intelligence document quoting a news report from CBS news where the report talks about AL Qaeda seeking to build a nuclear bomb and than deliver it to the United States according to Al Qaeda member Abu Zubaida who is an aide for Bin Laden and head of Al Qaeda operations. Abu Zubaida was telling this to his jail interrogators after he was captured. The report goes on to say that the officials are not sure of Abu Zubaida is telling the truth or he is just showing off.


160 posted on 03/28/2006 11:06:14 AM PST by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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