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Georgia May Approve Bible As Textbook
cbs news ^ | 3-27-06

Posted on 03/27/2006 7:01:17 AM PST by LouAvul

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The Georgia legislature seems poised to endorse just such a course. Though students in many states enroll in classes related to the Bible, Georgia would become the first to require its Department of Education to put in place a curriculum to teach the history and literature of the Bible. Schools would use the book itself as the classroom textbook. Specifically the bill would establish electives on both the New and Old Testaments.

It has overwhelmingly passed both chambers, but needs a final vote on a minor House change. The vote is expected as early as Monday. If it passes, the state's Department of Education has a year to establish Bible elective courses in the curriculum.

In the late 1700s, Congress thought enough of the Bible as a textbook that it printed 40,000 copies. But the bold effort here in Georgia to use the Bible in today's secular curricula may be about presenting it as a moral code rather than a foundation to better understand the biblical allusions in literature, critics say.

"Behind this is the tension around the country about how to go about doing a Bible elective, and a lot is at stake," says Charles Haynes, director of the First Amendment Center in Arlington, Va.

The Bible is already being used as a course study in as many as 1,000 American high schools, according to the National Council on Bible Curriculum in Public Schools in Greensboro, N.C. The US Supreme Court allows it as long as it's presented objectively, and not taught as fact. But the Georgia legislature's unprecedented decision to wade into what is usually a school district initiative has created concerns.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: bible; crevolist; education; textbooks
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The Bible is inspired by God and cannot be truly taught by secular teachers. To approach it as a mere text comparable to "The Old Man And The Sea" is to strip it of it's value in the life of an individual.
1 posted on 03/27/2006 7:01:19 AM PST by LouAvul
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To: LouAvul

The text can be studied, however in a secular manner. I don't see anything wrong with that. It would violate the Constitution for class to turn into a religious service.


2 posted on 03/27/2006 7:04:11 AM PST by Tulane
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To: LouAvul

I think it's a great idea and I applaud Georgia for their boldness.


3 posted on 03/27/2006 7:04:55 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: Tulane

No prob teaching it as an elective. Well, they're going to have to teach other religions, too, though.

Our school district has Comparative Religions as an elective.


4 posted on 03/27/2006 7:08:43 AM PST by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: Tulane

I wish I'd had a course in New Testament stories to prepare me for my 11th and 12th grade literature courses. Allusions to Christ and Bible stories are rampant in literature.

Georgia is going to have a hell of a battle picking the "approved" Bible for this course, though. They're going to have to hedge on issues like the Ten Commandments where there are clear differences between different versions. I don't envy the people called upon to write this curriculum, who are going to draw fire from every religious faction involved.


5 posted on 03/27/2006 7:10:16 AM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: mlc9852

The Koran will be next!


6 posted on 03/27/2006 7:10:35 AM PST by Andy from Beaverton (I only vote Republican to stop the Democrats)
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To: Andy from Beaverton

I just assumed they already taught the Koran!


7 posted on 03/27/2006 7:11:23 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: LouAvul; eyespysomething

I've been sorely disappointed in most of my children's teachers. The majority of my own teachers at Georgia schools were rotten. Personally, I don't want any of these "educators" teaching the Bible to my children.

Too much room for an agenda driven atheist to have classroom discussions that would enrage many of us.

Reading, writing, math, science, history - those are the things I expect my children to learn in school. The legislators need to drop the social engineering programs they're forcing on us (character education, for instance) and just go back to the basics.


9 posted on 03/27/2006 7:12:18 AM PST by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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To: Tulane
It would violate the Constitution for class to turn into a religious service.

Would you care to point to the text in the Constitution that makes it unlawful to hold a religious service in school.

10 posted on 03/27/2006 7:12:43 AM PST by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: TonyRo76

I'm sure they were never banned--we read snippets from Tyndale's bible and the King James Version in my British Literature course in a much more liberal state than Georgia. They appeared in our textbook. There simply was no course completely dedicated to the Bible before this.

And needless to say, students were free to conduct Bible study and have prayer meetings in school on their own.


11 posted on 03/27/2006 7:13:51 AM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: Tulane

How can you study a religious text in a non-religious manner??? Georgia is just begging for the Supreme Court to give them a well-deserved slap across the face.

Religion in schools? No way! The same people who applaud this move will sneer at the suggestion that maybe the Koran should be studied as well.


12 posted on 03/27/2006 7:14:34 AM PST by Lunatic Fringe (http://ntxsolutions.com)
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To: SittinYonder

I can barely stand them teaching my kids the basics, and they can barely do it. I sure don't want them teaching the Bible.


13 posted on 03/27/2006 7:15:57 AM PST by eyespysomething
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Would you care to point to the text in the Constitution that makes it unlawful to hold a religious service in school.

If a public school offers a class that doubles as a religious service for one brand of Christianity, it is privileging that denomination over other denominations and other religions, establishing it as a favored religion. Do you think it's an appropriate message for a public school to have a "Southern Baptist Worship Service" but nothing for Catholics, Jews, Presbyterians, Methodists, Muslims, and Hindus?

This is completely different from simply making the school's physical facilities available for religious services to all denominations.
14 posted on 03/27/2006 7:16:04 AM PST by HostileTerritory
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At least the Holy Scriptures would no longer banned in Georgia classrooms, and who can tell what questions any exposure to God's Word may raise in young minds full of wonder?

Especially when they've got government teachers who are members of the NEA teaching them!

I'm sure there are plenty of dedicated atheists already teaching who will gladly seek out a position to teach this elective, and I'm sure their interpretation of the Bible will be the one that dominates the class and the young minds full of wonder.

I'm already having to un-learn my children of the erroneous history and poorly taught math every evening, now I'll have to explain to them that their teachers are wrong about the Bible, too.

15 posted on 03/27/2006 7:16:08 AM PST by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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To: eyespysomething
I can barely stand them teaching my kids the basics, and they can barely do it. I sure don't want them teaching the Bible.

Amen sister!

16 posted on 03/27/2006 7:16:53 AM PST by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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To: HostileTerritory

I grew up with the Bible and am familiar with its stories. That knowledge helped me immeasureably in my college literature classes. I had some students approach me to tell me how much they envied my knowledge. No number of footnotes can substitute for knowing the stories in western literature. I personally think that ALL college literatue majors should include an introductory mythology and a Bible class. Until lit students know these stories, they will never understand western lit.


17 posted on 03/27/2006 7:17:09 AM PST by twigs
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To: HostileTerritory
If a public school offers a class that doubles as a religious service for one brand of Christianity, it is privileging that denomination over other denominations and other religions, establishing it as a favored religion. Do you think it's an appropriate message for a public school to have a "Southern Baptist Worship Service" but nothing for Catholics, Jews, Presbyterians, Methodists, Muslims, and Hindus?

This is completely different from simply making the school's physical facilities available for religious services to all denominations.

Nope, no text out of the Constitution here....

18 posted on 03/27/2006 7:17:33 AM PST by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: LouAvul

I took a few classes about the Bible at a fairly liberal University. I still have that copy of the Bible I purchased for said classes. They were very instructive and informative, in a secular way.


19 posted on 03/27/2006 7:18:02 AM PST by Paradox (".. and remove all doubt.")
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And needless to say, students were free to conduct Bible study and have prayer meetings in school on their own.

Y-Club.

20 posted on 03/27/2006 7:18:23 AM PST by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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