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To: A. Pole

You can argue anything. You can take any argument to absurdity and then try to make some ignorant point with that.

There are people who deny that the Holocaust ever happened. You fall into the same class with them. Ridiculous and pathetic.

There are “credible” sources unlike hearsay bullshit sources like all those Serb sites stating that F-15’s, a possible B2, dozens of Vipers and and and were shot down. You have “transparency”. You had AWACS recording the flights with international crews, you have international crews flying the missions. There are HUD tapes that show enemy being hit. The number of US planes is not even classified and public record, even inspected by Russia in accordance to treaty’s limiting the numbers of certain weapon systems we are allowed to have……… But, Vladimir tells me NATO and ALLLLLLLLL the public NATO disclosures on our planes shot down is wrong. I should believe him right? BS.

You had thousands of refugees fleeing the region (250,000 just in Germany – obviously they were all lying!). You have REAL found mass graves (Must have been planted by the CIA or NSA?). You have international troops from the Netherlands, Germany, Italy, France, US……. make finds and independently make public statements reference Serb atrocities (They are all colluding?). But, Vladimir is whom I should believe, right?. Yea- tell it to someone else.

You have right about now ZERO credibility.


59 posted on 03/27/2006 11:43:18 AM PST by Red6
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To: Red6
They did shoot down the stealth fighter, there were a lot of "training accidents" which occurred during the Balkans wars. Other countries admitted to losing planes over Yugoslavia too.

Many refugees simply left a war zone during a civil war with separatists/ethnic factions - some which were supported by the west.

Don't forget the Mujahadeen running around cutting off Serbs' and even Croats' heads.

The mass graves are often claimed to be Muslim, but identities and autopsies are never presented - not even in court.

The graves are found where Muslims were known to attack Serb villages. So, the media comes up with stories about Serbs reburying and moving the graves to distant places when they can't find any within Srebrenica.

They go to 60 miles away - into Serb villages - and claim those are Muslims from Srebrenica. Most of the bodies aren't even identified after 10 years. They aren't matching the Muslims.

The Muslims lost some men during the battles and try to claim they were POWs, but the autopsy records aren't made accessible which would help distinguish between battle deaths, mine accidents, versus POW-type close range shootings.

60 posted on 03/27/2006 12:03:10 PM PST by joan
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To: Red6
There are people who deny that the Holocaust ever happened. You fall into the same class with them. Ridiculous and pathetic.

I guess if someone denies that YOU Red6 are a mass murderer, falls into the same class with Holocaust deniers.

And so does everyone who denies that Albanian and Bosnian Muslims were the principal victims of the war and denies that 200,000 Muslims got slaughtered and rejects the existence of rape/death camps in Bosnia.

63 posted on 03/27/2006 12:40:10 PM PST by A. Pole (nuconvert: "...we're glad Milosevic is gone. I don't really care how it happened.")
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To: Red6
Red6, you wrote

"There are people who deny that the Holocaust ever happened. You fall into the same class with them. Ridiculous and pathetic"

So, you're comparing the Holocaust with Srebrenica I take it. O.K., let's look at the facts and see how closely the match up.

1) The Holocaust consumed 6,000,000 Jews. Srebrenica, even if we take the ICTY's numbers meant the death of around 6,000 muslims ( BTW the ICTY's case against the Bosnian Serbs is a joke but that's by the by )

So one tenth of 1%.

2) The Muslims had an entire division in Srebrenica. They were re equip-ed by helicopter and on foot. As the war progressed they became stronger.

Can the same be said of the Jewish inmates of Auschwitz? Did the Jews have an entire division within the camp?
Were they re equipped with anti tank missiles?

3) The 28th Muslim Division within Srebrenica was so powerful they almost linked up with the Muslim's main battle lines (the 2nd Corps) at Tuzla on a couple of occasions. In fact, earlier in 1995, they launched "Operation Grasshopper", the aim being to physically link up the Zepa and Srebrenica safe havens with TUZLA. They almost succeeded and were only repulsed after very heavy fighting.

Did the Jews in their concentration camps almost manage to link up with allied lines during WW2?

4) Oric's men torched the surrounding area (Prodrnje plateau) destroying 50 Serb inhabited villages in the process. They bragged of killing all Bosnian Serbs: women, children, OAP's.

They never took prisoners.

The Dutch soldiers would watch as the 28th Division would leave the safety of Srebrenica and then note that a couple of hours later, they'd see smoke coming from a neighboring Serb village.

Did the Jewish inmates of, say, Bergen Belson, torch the villages, killing all the ethnic Germans they found, women, children, the elderly?

And so the list continues.

The irony is it's you, Red6, who is intent on belittling the suffering of the Jewish people in WW2. You, if anything, are the Holocaust denier, for you compare that event with the deaths at Srebrenica.

ONE TENTH OF ONE %

Trust you to demean the memory of the Jews, Red6.
88 posted on 03/27/2006 9:03:27 PM PST by infidel_and_proud
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To: Red6

You have zero credibility too. Arn't YOU just an opinionated mussie supporter??


96 posted on 03/29/2006 9:49:35 PM PST by Lion in Winter (The older I am the more I want people to wake up and smell the coffee 'bout violent religions)
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