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Yesterday’s Protester Remarks Illustrate A Misguided Nation
Immigration News Daily ^ | March 25, 2006 | The Editors

Posted on 03/25/2006 4:55:23 PM PST by AZRepublican

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To: speekinout

So does that mean becaus eso many break these laws, that using your "logic" we also make hard drugs such as heroin legal as well?


41 posted on 03/25/2006 9:09:20 PM PST by RFT1
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To: speekinout

By the way, most do not pay taxes. A very large number of them work under the table, so no taxes are paid. NEXT!


42 posted on 03/25/2006 9:14:41 PM PST by RFT1
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To: AZRepublican
"It's about time we exercised some of our civil rights," said John Chavez.

Then go home and exercise them.

This is one argument I remember having (along with a friend of mine) with some fluff headed college girl some years ago. Some seem to think that our rights automatically encircle the world and that anyone who steps foot over here automatically qualifies for those same rights, as well as citizenship. The underlying argument almost always comes down to, "oh the poor people, they need our help". These people have countries that are responsible for them.
43 posted on 03/25/2006 11:18:04 PM PST by kenth
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To: TigersEye

"How much later? They seem to be moving to the streets in large numbers now."

Right, and as soon as anyone marches against them, there are cries of 'racist' and almost certainly retribution against those who protest illegals' lawbreaking entry into our country. The same treatment is meted out right here on this board--anyone else notice that at one point, every single immigration thread had 'bigotry' added as a keyword? (seems to be largely mod-corrected since as keyword abuse) It's hard for compromise fans to deny that their primary argument for the amnesty is that asking for America's borders to be protected is akin to asking for a hood and fiery cross patch to be affixed to your breast. Americans are afraid to protest but lawbreakers flood the streets, unconcerned they will be subject to arrest, and the only reason anyone at all can claim to be for the amnesty is that they're already here. Not that this is a good thing. Not that it is a positive for America. That we're stuck with millions of illegals, and we should accept it and move on.

That's a Rat slogan. And I'm done moving.


44 posted on 03/26/2006 3:57:06 AM PST by LibertarianInExile (Freedom isn't free--no, there's a hefty f'in fee--and if you don't throw in your buck-o-5, who will?)
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To: AZRepublican

Good! It'd be a shame if editors didn't know the difference between bare and bear. My other pet peeve is the misuse of the homonyms their, they're, and there


45 posted on 03/26/2006 5:32:24 AM PST by knittnmom (...surrounded by reality)
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To: the invisib1e hand
That statement would have seemed obviously true to me if I hadnt seen these protests.
46 posted on 03/26/2006 6:12:35 AM PST by mthom
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To: speekinout
What you propose is to give mexico an overwhelming preference in our immigration laws.
47 posted on 03/26/2006 6:14:13 AM PST by mthom
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To: speekinout

"immigration laws don't meet our needs"

That statement is a crock! Tell that to my son who couldn't get jobs(that I had growing up) over summers in high school or college because there was always an "immigrant" in that spot. The only way he was able to work was through networking with people I knew. I am damn sick and tired of hearing they do the "work Americans won't do."


48 posted on 03/26/2006 7:35:58 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: AZRepublican
"They want to make a law that would make it illegal for me to talk to my wife."

This statement, beyond its patent absurdity, should be the cue for responsible media to ridicule the whole thing. Of course they won't.

And hey, if his wife's homely enough, maybe such a law is just the get-out clause he needs. But I digress.

The message, of course, is as muddled as it is misguided. They want rights (read: handouts) from the government of the United States? Then why brandish Mexican flags? Do you see Koreans, Syrians, South Africans or Senegalese waving the flags of their home countries while barking about what George Will calls "freshly-minted rights" once they have emigrated legally to the US? Isn't it the legal part that they are really protesting? And when will the next protest in favor of bank robbers and car thieves be, as long as we're promoting lawbreaking?

49 posted on 03/26/2006 7:41:52 AM PST by relictele
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To: mthom
What you propose is to give mexico an overwhelming preference in our immigration laws.

Absolutely not. First of all, I do not believe that guest worker status should lead to citizenship. Citizenship status should follow the same rules and quotas we currently have.
And a minor point is that I don't think we know how many of the illegals are Mexican. The Hispanics come from all different SA countries, as well as China, Europe, and Africa. The Irish PM was asking our gov't to allow Irish to stay, and that leads me to believe we have more Irish illegals here than any of us would guess.

50 posted on 03/26/2006 12:39:42 PM PST by speekinout
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To: freeangel

I don't know where you live, but there are many areas of the country where there just aren't any unemployed teens. The illegals go where the jobs are - most teens won't.

Not all that long ago, teens were the ones who did yard work, delivered papers, babysat, did odd jobs, etc. They won't do those things anymore. They prefer working in fast food places.
College students used to go to resort areas and take seasonal jobs. So few will do that now there are guest worker programs allowing resorts to recruit young people from Europe.

Did your son try those things?


51 posted on 03/26/2006 12:50:03 PM PST by speekinout
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To: speekinout
"When the laws become so out of sync with what we need, we need to change the laws, instead of becoming hysterical about obeying the laws on the books."

You have a per$onal intere$t here, I $ee. Law$ mean nothing to tho$e who$e prioritie$ (or a$ you $aid "need$") conflict with current law.

And, in your mind, law-abiding citizens are hysterical? You are much too obvious about your own selfish interests here ... and insulting to those who believe in and live by the rule of law. Nevertheless, you and those like you are laughing all the way to the bank by thumbing your noses at U.S. law.

52 posted on 03/26/2006 1:08:18 PM PST by EverOnward (help support our hero soldiers at anysoldier.com)
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To: EverOnward
And, in your mind, law-abiding citizens are hysterical?

It's not against the law to get hysterical, and yes, some law-abiding citizens are hysterical.

If you're not in that class, then you can stop attacking me and give me a rational and fact based assessment of where the illegals currently work, and what the impact on the local economies will be if they were all deported immediately.

53 posted on 03/26/2006 1:17:00 PM PST by speekinout
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To: Brad's Gramma

Here's a thread addressing the biggest cover-up of all:

Couldn't we stop the amnesty juggernaut if we figured out how to expose how racist MEXICO's own immigration laws are? Here's a potentially astonishing related thread which details how FLAGRANTLY anti-gringo Mexico's immigration laws are compared to our own:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1602610/posts

Can you believe it? Why doesn't the media cover this information (yet)? That would set the race-baiters still in their tracks!


54 posted on 03/26/2006 1:22:53 PM PST by Shuttle Shucker
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To: Shuttle Shucker

Thanks.


55 posted on 03/26/2006 1:26:25 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma
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To: speekinout

Between his college freshman and junior years he babysat(a family I hooked him up with. He was turned down at fast food places.--already filled by "minorities". He worked part time as a freshman at a Paki owned hotel and was high man on the pay scale last year at $5.85/hr. Of course, the owner kept scheduling him during classes, so he had to quit. Don't tell me that American kids won't work for min. wage.


56 posted on 03/26/2006 3:15:14 PM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: freeangel
He was turned down at fast food places.--already filled by "minorities".

I'll bet those "minorities" were American born Blacks. Illegals don't often speak English well enough to get jobs dealing with the public.

He worked part time as a freshman at a Paki owned hotel and was high man on the pay scale last year at $5.85/hr. Of course, the owner kept scheduling him during classes, so he had to quit.

If he was highest on the pay scale, it's no surprise that the owner wanted to push him out. Few business owners want to pay more than they have to.

Why didn't he move to a location where jobs are more available? In the time between school years, of course. There are a lot of places in the country where the unemployment rate is <4%.
There is huge competition for jobs in University towns, but that's almost always because of the number of students, and not because of illegals.

57 posted on 03/26/2006 3:43:49 PM PST by speekinout
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To: speekinout

I think this experience will do him well in the long run. I've been "gently" trying to tell him that he needs to find something he loves so that he can be in business for himself and so that he will not have to depend on others for employment nor to employ. I hopes he learns the lesson well from these "life experiences."


58 posted on 03/26/2006 5:32:40 PM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: freeangel

Yes, being in business for yourself is a good thing if you can manage it. The alternative is to be willing to go wherever the opportunities are.
Your son may just have learned at a young age that it takes work to find work. Too many people don't find that out until they're much older, and it's much harder to deal with.

Good luck to your son!


59 posted on 03/26/2006 6:12:31 PM PST by speekinout
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