Lesbian couple found guilty of boy's murder (refused to call mom's dyke friend "daddy"!)

Mail & Guardian (South Africa) ^ | 23 March 2006 | South African Press Union

[pollyannaish]

Lesbians have a tendency towards violence. Much more than hetero's, and even a lot more than gay men. You can just look at them, and see the anger.

So, like, say....Jeffry Dahmer wouldn't count then? Or the couple that kept the children in cages?

That is a very huge, provably false, generalization. There are creepy, weird, violent people of every stripe. For instance, a pastor's wife who just killed her husband in cold blood?

My point is only that there are legitimate reasons to argue against gay/lesbian MARRIAGE. This however, is NOT the way to do it just doesn't stand up to evidence, not to mention the fact that it is wrong to paint groups with such a broad brush.

[GMMAC]

No, I clearly said in my post #31: "... I'd answer that, outside of the ghetto, this is largely a radical feminist lie and defy you to post a legitimate, well-documented study saying otherwise."

Beyond this, I'd add the number of non-ghetto dads abandoning their children is minuscule by comparison to the number of mothers who deny lawful paternal access in open violation of "family" Court Orders with this willful misconduct routinely going unpunished.

As for a "plot", surely it's quite plain to most people that "family" Courts in virtually all jurisdictions practice varying levels of bias based upon gender.

Only very foolish and/or short-sighted and/or women incapable of putting their children's interests ahead of their own support this sexist status quo because it generally only benefits them in their narrow societal role as mothers.
Otherwise loving grandmothers, aunts, sisters, etc. who've been outright denied mutually-positive relationships with children or seen them severely limited & restricted because they happened to fall on the paternal side of those children's extended families favor absolute fairness and respect for children's best interests when it comes to matters of custody & access.

[GMMAC]

"I'm sure heterosexual step-parents have never abused/murdered their step-children. [eyes rolling]"

You're correct:
Numerous well-documented & unbiased studies can be cited which show the number of natural fathers who harm their children to be considerably smaller than the combined one for natural mothers and sundry male partners not related by blood to their children.

While natural fathers appear to be slightly more prone than natural mothers to inflict serious physical harm or death upon children, non-biologically related males are a far greater threat than either.

[GMMAC]

The statistics concerning homosexual vs. heterosexual pedophilia & violence towards children are a bit tricky:

With homosexuals of both genders being only something like 3% or less of the total population, their actual number of such offenses is less than that of heterosexuals.
However, using as an example the likely figure of male homosexuals being involved in 30-40% of ALL pedophilia, they are statistically far more likely to be a threat to children.

[pollyannaish]

I don't disagree with your statistics.

But let's say that 30 or 40% of the people that perpetrate a certain crime are Christians? Or Americans? Or Freepers? Does that make the other 60 or 70% of us guilty?

Just because something is more likely in a given group, does not mean it is right to tar and feather the majority.

Like I said, there are fair and legitimate reasons to oppose gay marriage. But this kind of argument undercuts that because it is provably not true in the majority of cases. Sick people are sick people...no matter what group they may be affiliated with.

[GMMAC]

While the likelihood of homosexuals molesting children is at the far end of the negative behavior scale, would you blame anyone who chose to 'play the odds' when selecting a babysitter? The better arguments have to do with children's (as opposed to the adults') best interests.

Children's ideal role models - for a host of well documented reasons - are their natural, married to each other, opposite sex parents. Straying from the ideal strays from what's best for a child.

Morally, it's one thing when unfortunate circumstances don't permit children this ideal but entirely another when narcissistic adults arbitrarily decide that their own imagined "rights" are paramount to those of children and selfishly deny them as much.

For adults, being able to place your own interests secondary to those of a child is a mark of both maturity & of being a conscientious parent. Believing up front that a child simply doesn't need a mother or a father or heterosexual primary role models & then proceeding accordingly indicates neither.

[Yaakov The Orator]

Hildy, I don't believe you understand exactly what is going on here. The murder of a beutiful little boy by this lesbian piece of excrement is a consequence of her sin of homosexuality. This murder may have been preventable if she had ceased to live such an openly sinful life.