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It was only a matter of time. The illegal immigration has been going on virtually uninhibited for so long that, eventually, a law passed to curtail it would be a bit loony.
Although the rights of due process under American law apply only to American citizens (not illegal immigrants), that this passed bill would provide no means by which any immigrant with a visa can provide their ID before being deported for any reason is ludicrous.
Although I am in support of President Bush on most matters, there are some areas where I just can't along. Illegal immigration ("Doing the jobs Americans won't do," eh? Well, they're jobs Americans USED to do before illegal immigrants started doing them for dirt cheap prices that employers wouldn't be able to get away with a normal citizen). Spending (here's a hint; curtailing the growth of spending is not the same as cutting spending). Campaign finance reform (First Amendment issue, bub).
Considering Bush's stance on the illegal immigration issue, it's possible he might veto this. I wouldn't get your hopes up, as Bush has yet to veto a SINGLE bill to cross his desk. Fortunately, if this bill becomes law, the SCOTUS (Supreme Court Of The United States) will probably be brought to decide its constitutionality in court. And the odds of it being struck down in the Supreme Court are good, as the two newest Justices - Chief Justice John Roberts and Associate Justice Samuel Alito - are both strict interpreters of the Constitution.
I have to say that this whole illegal immigration mess would clear up almost immediately if two things happened.
1) A wall is built, spanning the entire length of the border with Mexico (and I mean a REAL wall, not the dinky barbed wire fences that you use to keep cows in. Something like the wall between Israel and Syria). The one for Canada can come later.
2) Track down those employing illegal immigrants and sentence them with jail time for aiding criminals (which illegal immigrants technically are, as entering the country illegally is a crime). The labor market for illegals would dry up in a heartbeat.
I have to say illegal immigration is a slap in the face to immigrants who came here legally and worked hard to get where they are. Illegals can simply get a fake ID and start working immediately (with help from the ACLU at that). Oh, and they also go to an Emergency Room for everything. They get free care, and the taxpayers have to pick up the bill.
Meh.
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I'm all for stopping illegal immigration, but does this law go a bit too far?
Ping!
This past week, Congress passed the first of a new slew of immigration laws, law HR4437. While many don't mind them cracking down and appreciate the new temporary worker programs being set up and laws to give many illegal immigrants visas, this new law may ruin the lives of American born citizens who simply LOOK like they may be from another country.
I agree, this abuse has gone on for long enough. It is time to clean house, and if this President has to be thrown out in order to get it done, then so be it.
Well, number one, the sections of code to which he repeatedly refers are not quotations of the sections, but actually his own interpretation (or whoever he got his talking ponts from) of the code. It's hard for me to get too worked up over what he thinks of the law. If he had actually quoted the law, and then added his criticism of it, I would be more likely to want to listen to what he has to say.
Not too far at all.
They are starting up this profiling crap argument again.
The illegal aliens and the criminals who hire them and the criminals who harbor them are getting out in the street making their desires known. It is way past time those of us who support the rule of law and secure borders did the same.
Join Veterans for Secure Borders, The Minuteman Project, Latino Americans for Immigration Reform, Mothers Against Illegal Aliens, and other groups protesting amnesty for these criminals, and demanding the government protect our borders.
http://www.areckoning.com/
FReepers should be at this rally in strength. Saturday, May 6, in Crawford, TX.
a) Don't be a criminal.
b) Don't be an illegal.
You're safe.
Later bump
We need to send a strong message to the president, congress, the republican party, main stream media, and the public at large...
There will be NO discussion of "Guest Worker" programs, or immigration reform until the Borders Are Secured..
Border Security is Priority #1....
Not "Economic Vitality"...
Not Immigration Reform...
It's National Security...
Deal with the immigration laws that presently exist and ENFORCE THEM...
National Security depends on Secure Borders..
No.
Unless they cut both of my hands off, my fingerprints are in the NCIS database. Same for my Naturalized wife.
When I leave the house, I have my driver's license with me.
ID is not an issue for me.
I live less than 40 miles from the border with MX.
If you're a foreigner living abroad, you'd best be prepared to prove you have the legal right to be there at any time.
With the prevalence of the ACLU, and all the other screaming-meemie Meatheads, there is no way that people would not be given a reasonable chance to prove residence. A 30-day trial waiting period is unnecessary. We're just talking about deportation. In the extremely unlikely instance that someone were actually wrongly deported, I'm sure the Mexican (or whatever foreign) government would help them in any way necessary to get back.
HB 4437 is a well thought-out piece of legislation that will have exactly, precisely, the intended effect: slowing or halting illegal immigration. Thus the reason its' detractors are so rabid in denouncing it... ...it would actually work, so they're doing everything in their power to stop it.
You need to read the bill.
Shouldn't Mexico reform its OWN immigration laws before complaining about ours? Here's a potentially astonishing related thread which details how FLAGRANTLY anti-gringo Mexico's immigration laws are compared to our own:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1602610/posts
Can you believe it? Why doesn't the media cover this information (yet)? That would set the race-baiters still in their tracks!
"this new law may ruin the lives of American born citizens who simply LOOK like they may be from another country."
BS, and the bill doesn't go far enough.
It all sounds good to me, the only thing that's missing is a the elinination of any and all social services by any government agency.
I don't know about other states but in CA, any citizen who doesn't qualify for a DL because of age or revocation can be issued an ID from the DMV.
It's always been my understanding that it'a illegal not to have ID on your person no matter where you are.