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Russian Gave Saddam US War Plans; Mole Suspected in CentCom
Sierra Times ^ | 3/25/2006 | Jim Kouri, CPP

Posted on 03/25/2006 3:53:07 AM PST by FerdieMurphy

The Pentagon firmly believes that the Russian government gave Iraq President Saddam Hussein United States strategic war plans for the invasion of Iraq.

The Fox News Channel is reporting that the Pentagon believes the Russians had a "mole" in CentCom (US military's Central Command) who passed on secrets to the Russians who in turn passed on intelligence to Saddam's regime.

Documents confiscated by US forces after the Iraq invasion revealed communications between Russian government officials and the Iraqi military high-command before the March 2003 invasion by coalition forces. According to the Pentagon, the communications included handwritten notes.

According to a Moscow journalist, documents from Saddam Hussein’s leadership released by the US government reveal that the Russian ambassador to Iraq disclosed the US war plans to Saddam and his commanders.

Two documents dated March 2003, on the eve of the US-led invasion described details of the US military strategic and tactical plans.

One of the documents is a handwritten account of a meeting between the Russian ambassador Vladimir Teterenko and Iraqi military and diplomatic officials. The document details his description of the composition, size, location and type of US military forces arrayed in the Gulf and Jordan.

The document also includes the deployment numbers of tanks, armored vehicles, different types of aircraft, missiles, helicopters, aircraft carriers, and other forces and also their exact locations. The ambassador also described the positions of two Special Forces units, according to ABC News.

The second document is a typed account, signed by Deputy Foreign Minister Hammam Abdel Khaleq, which states that Teterenko told the Iraqis that "the United States was planning to deploy its force into Iraq from Basra in the South and up the Euphrates, and would avoid entering major cities on the way to Baghdad,"

According to Pentagon, this is exactly what happened. The documents also state that “Americans are also planning on taking control of the oil fields in Kirkuk.” The information was obtained by the Russians from “sources at U.S. Central Command in Doha, Qatar,” according to the document.

This document also includes an account of an incident in which several Iraqi Army officers (presumably seeking further elaboration of the US war plans) contacted the Russian Embassy in Baghdad and stated that the ambassador was their source. This caused great embarrassment to Teterenko, and the officers were instructed “not to mention the ambassador again in that context.”

Teterenko is mentioned in documents released by the Volker Commission, which investigated the Oil for Food scandal, as receiving allocations of 3 million barrels of oil — worth roughly $1.5 million.

While the recently released documents are being analyzed by several news organizations and intelligence think-tanks, there exists a classified version of the Pentagon report, titled "Iraqi Perspectives Project," which is not being released to the public.

These disclosures go far in explaining other events that have occurred in Iraq just prior to the invasion that toppled Saddam's regime. For example, sources have claimed that they saw plainclothes Russian military personnel helping with the transport of materials across the Iraq border into Syria. Several intelligence analysts have claimed some of the materials may have been chemical and/or biological weapons.

In addition, former Iraqi Air Force General, Georges Sada, has repeatedly claimed that the Russian military cooperated with Iraq in an advisory capacity and that the Russians were in Iraq right up to the time the invasion began.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation is also alarmed about the impact of foreign spies within the United States, especially Chinese and Russian operatives. The Russians have infiltrated both government and private sector organizations. The FBI are suspicious of Russia, Iran, and North Korea but have focused mostly on the Chinese. The feds estimate that the are over 2,600 Chinese front companies in the US.

These new disclosures, plus reports already reviewed, highlight the belief of many that Russia is not an ally or friend of the United States. As we pursue curtailing Iran's nuclear weapons program, Russia is the last country we should trust to broker a deal.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: donttrustivan; iraqiintelligence; prewardocs; russiantreachery
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The Russians are our friends. That's why they have aimed their missiles at strategic U. S. targets to protect us.
1 posted on 03/25/2006 3:53:11 AM PST by FerdieMurphy
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To: FerdieMurphy

The mole doesn't appear to have done much damage considering the fact that Saddam appeared to get caught by suprise even after our repeated warnings.


2 posted on 03/25/2006 3:56:08 AM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: FerdieMurphy

Didn't do him a whole lot of good, did it?


3 posted on 03/25/2006 3:57:18 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: FerdieMurphy

The mole has soldier's blood on its hands.


4 posted on 03/25/2006 4:09:55 AM PST by tkathy (Ban the headscarf (http://bloodlesslinchpinsofislamicterrorism.blogspot.com))
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To: Non-Sequitur

We have a lot of moles in this country. Some work for the Pentagon, some for the newspapers and some of them are Senators on the Hill. Our security systems have more holes than a Swiss cheese. I have some respect for a mole that is a paid professional spy, I have none for political whores that give away secrets to hurt our nations present administration or to gain political power. Are you listening Senator Leahy, Senator Rockefeller, Senator Pelosi?


5 posted on 03/25/2006 4:16:21 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: Non-Sequitur

We have a lot of moles in this country. Some work for the Pentagon, some for the newspapers and some of them are Senators and Congresspeople on the Hill. Our security systems have more holes than a Swiss cheese. I have some respect for a mole that is a paid professional spy, I have none for political whores that give away secrets to hurt our nations present administration or to gain political power. Are you listening Senator Leahy, Senator Rockefeller,Congresswoman Pelosi?


6 posted on 03/25/2006 4:18:24 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: cripplecreek
Hopefully the CentCom mole investigation was completed before this news story broke.

I mean are we to suppose that recently released declassified documents had this info in them and it was discovered by FOX to the surprise of the FBI?

7 posted on 03/25/2006 4:20:35 AM PST by ThirstyMan (hysteria: the elixir of the Left that trumps all reason)
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To: sgtbono2002

I'm glad your post was doubled! It bears saying twice... or even more!

LLS


8 posted on 03/25/2006 4:23:15 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: cripplecreek

Did you read the documents that stated that Saddam basically had no fear of a US invasion? That he thought we were too casualty adverse to invade Iraq?

Wrong administration, Saddam.


9 posted on 03/25/2006 4:24:10 AM PST by CheyennePress
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To: FerdieMurphy
"These new disclosures, plus reports already reviewed, highlight the belief of many that Russia is not an ally or friend of the United States. As we pursue curtailing Iran's nuclear weapons program, Russia is the last country we should trust to broker a deal."


Thank God for the Sierra Times and Jim Kouri.

And here both I, and the administration, were certain that the Ruski's were our friends and allies since 1944!

Now that they have been exposed as possibly not working in our best interests, maybe we can start nuking all those countries that work against our interests in the world.

Russia, then France, then Germany, then Pakistan, then China, then California, then the DNC, then Wal-Mart, then ...




10 posted on 03/25/2006 4:26:01 AM PST by G.Mason (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: FerdieMurphy

what about a mole in MSM


11 posted on 03/25/2006 4:30:41 AM PST by Flavius (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: CheyennePress

When I put all the pieces gathered from numerous stories about the war (most of them gathered from FR) I'm led to believe that the Russians were working both sides like they always do. (as do we)

There were stories that claimed they were telling saddam that there would be no American invasion. There were stories that said they were feeding us information on Saddam.

In the end Saddam didn't appear to be expecting to see tanks rolling into baghdad. He even left his bridges intact for use after the war.


12 posted on 03/25/2006 4:31:41 AM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: FerdieMurphy
I'm not a fan of isolationism but I think we would be better off doing our own thing and the hell with these so called "allies". Look at all the trouble we had with the UN trying to get these people to go along with the invasion of Iraq. They were all feeding at the trough and even though they smile to our faces they would do anything to see us go down.

Imagine what this country would be like if all the money we pour into trying to make friends were put into America. (Crap, we could all be on welfare and have money left over and when we needed anything, just go take it from what ever country had it. sarcasm.)

13 posted on 03/25/2006 4:42:51 AM PST by depenzz (Success is going from one failure to another failure without losing enthusiasm)
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To: FerdieMurphy; All

Who is the traitor, within the government that discolsed the secrets? Any guesses, anyone?


14 posted on 03/25/2006 4:42:57 AM PST by Wiz (Nightmare of the Information Warfare)
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To: G.Mason

"Russia is not an ally or friend of the United States"


People are forgetting the "dialectic"...


15 posted on 03/25/2006 4:46:18 AM PST by freedom4me
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To: FerdieMurphy

Mole Suspected in CentCom

Gerldo Rivera?


16 posted on 03/25/2006 4:52:27 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: 'Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake But Accurate, Experts Say.')
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To: FerdieMurphy
These new disclosures, plus reports already reviewed, highlight the belief of many that Russia is not an ally or friend of the United States.

I am sure that our government never thought that Russia was an ally but hoped they would become one.

Russia is a Communist country, Putin is nothing but a dictator dressed up to look like a President.

Spys are nothing new, what is upsetting is that there are so many that go undetected.

I have often wondered if the people that tell the newspapers what they shouldn't are actually working for those that hate and want to destroy us.

17 posted on 03/25/2006 4:53:16 AM PST by Dustbunny (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist)
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To: FerdieMurphy

Depending on the source of the report, there seem to be several stories regarding this.....

One is that Central Command were overheard thru listening devices planted in the room used by them.

Two is that someone traitorous inside Central Command told the Russians.

Three is that the Americans purposely were giving false info to the Russians because they knew the Russians would give it to Saddam. (maybe they started giving false info after they suspected the Russians)

Also, I read that someone saw this story on BBC several yrs ago.


18 posted on 03/25/2006 4:57:28 AM PST by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: FerdieMurphy

Saddam's army must really really suck because we still, very handily, defeated them.


19 posted on 03/25/2006 5:00:07 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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