Posted on 03/25/2006 3:48:03 AM PST by FerdieMurphy
As of the writing of this article, Republicans in the U.S. Senate are working on an immigration bill to match an immigration bill already passed by the House. It appears as if the Senate will back the bill proposed by Senators Ted Kennedy and John McCain.
To call this a loser of a bill is an understatement. For starters, anything Ted Kennedy proposes or supports cannot be good for Americans (remember Teddy was the main sponsor of an immigration reform bill back in 1965 that has helped to cause many of our immigration problems today). The fact that John McCain, a Republican that has proven hes a straw blown in the wind, concerning his political ideology, is a co-sponsor lends no serious weight to the credibility of the bill.
How is it that the Senate, controlled by conservative Republicans, can back a bill that clearly advocates amnesty for illegals? Senator Kennedy claims it isnt an amnesty bill, but the bill would allow illegals to stay in the country, merely paying a fine for breaking our laws, for avoiding paying taxes, and for depressing our wages. Illegals would then get a temporary status for six years, would need to have a job, pay taxes, learn English and show an understanding of U.S. government. These four requirements would make them better qualified to be U.S. citizens than the Senators supporting this bill.
What part of illegal dont Senators understand? Shouldnt people who break our laws pay for their crimes? Using the U.S. Senates logic, if the police were to discover the identity of a murderer two years after the murder took place, we should then tell the murderer, Well, you did break the law, but since that happened so long ago, just pay a fine and promise us youll behave from now on and you can go on your merry way. Politicians can call their amnesty plans whatever they want to, but if illegals arent made to pay for their crimes via jail time, and then deported, then the government is not enforcing our laws. Anything less than punishment and deportation is a form of amnesty; period.
Simply put, Congress needs to build a long, high barrier along our land borders, and inspect every ship and container that comes into our ports. Strict enforcement of our laws should include seriously punishing employers hiring illegals and aggressively working to deport illegals. Anything less is a violation of their oaths of office and a betrayal of American citizens.
Now, I know some folks will whine about how all these illegals contribute to our society. That simply isnt true. According to the National Research Council, an estimated net cost for illegal immigration is between $11 billion to $22 billion a year. Much of this burden falls on local and state governments. There is an incredible burden on our medical and educational resources, which illegals participate in, but pay nothing to support.
It is estimated that 27 percent of the U.S. prison population is made up of illegals. Mind you, this isnt illegals just coming here to provide for their families, but illegals whove done something else to break the laws of our land besides just enter our country illegally (usually their crimes are of a violent nature). These criminals are often not deported, but cut loose back on our streets. This is insane, and our politicians want to reward these people for coming here, depressing our wages, financially destroying our medical and education institutions, and terrorizing our citizens. Who elected these politicians; American citizens or terrorists wanting to destabilize our country?
Whats really sad is that the overwhelming majority of citizens want the government to enforce our laws and stop rewarding people who break our laws, but the government is actually looking to encourage more of the same illegal activity. Everyone knows the Democrats will do nothing to protect the people. Unfortunately, there is a large segment of American society that mistakenly believes that the Republicans will. The Republicans have controlled Congress for a number of years now, and what do we have to show for it? Increasing debt, expanded, invasive government, and practically no enforcement of our immigration laws.
The so-called conservative party, the Republicans, have turned into Democrats. Both major political parties are struggling to define their message and unify their ranks for the 2006 elections. The sum total of their efforts so far is this:
Democrats: The Republicans got us into a war we cant win.
Republicans: Just think how bad things would be if the Democrats had been in charge.
How pathetic. The Democrats havent changed. They are still the communist party theyve been since George McGovern ran for president. Their goal is to destroy our constitutional republic, and in its place establish an egalitarian democracy that will put us on the same footing as the now-defunct U.S.S.R. The Republicans on the other hand are acting more and more like Democrats, rather than a principled, conservative political body.
Can the Republicans do no better than to basically advocate spending more money, blow people and things up, and let foreigners overrun our borders? Yes, I believe things would be worse under the Democrats, but there isnt a whole lot of difference between getting stuck in the eye with a red-hot poker and a white-hot poker. Its still going to hurt, and youll still be blind. If American citizens want their laws enforced, they should go looking for third party candidates who actually care about their oaths of office and putting America first. We need new blood in D.C. in the House, Senate and White House, and not just replacing old establishment insiders with new establishment insiders.
This argues that they only way to pay for the crime of legal entry is prison. Then complains, "It is estimated that 27 percent of the U.S. prison population is made up of illegals." So where are you going to put 11 million prisoners( many women and children)? And what will that cost? Why can't a fine be payment enough?
My republican congressman is one of the George Soros puppets and I WILL vote against him.
"libertarian leanings" are fine and dandy... The Libertarian Party is not.
LLS
You aren't changing any minds.
How does failure to enforce existing law justify or enhance the passage and enforcement of another set of laws?
"A mind is a terrible thing to waste".
LLS
Well said.
Throw the bums out!
What do you expect from our Senate?!?!?
Don't get me started ...
Where did the writer dream up this idea from? Most of the Senators are not far from the center, because they have to win state-wide. Of course, senators from all-lib states like NY, CA, and MA can be kooks, and there are some Western states where a senator can be a conservative. However, you have to be a moderate to win state-wide in most states.
Frists bill will bring in an additional 1 million green card holders per year, plus 400,000 HB-1 visa types.
Total per year, 2.4 million.
Senators Fighting Over Who Can Flood U.S. With Most Foreign Workers
The Senate will return March 28 to debate proposals to add tens of millions of permanent foreign workers and their dependents over the next decade. The newest proposal by Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-TN) (S. 2454) was touted as a more limited proposal than the giant amnesties being promoted in the Senate Judiciary Committee. But Sen. Frist's bill would allow 20 million more permanent immigrants to settle over the next 10 years. That compares to 25 million more under the McCain/Kennedy amnesty bill (S. 1033) and 30 million more under the Specter amnesty bill (no bill number). Americans who desire a less congested and more worker-friendly future can press their Senators to support an effort to substitute a bill like the one that overwhelmingly passed the U.S. House in a bi-partisan vote in December. H.R. 4437 would allow 9.5 million permanent immigrants over the decade, compared to 10 million if Congress does nothing. But, at least, H.R. 4437 provides far more tools than any of the above Senate bills to reduce the current illegal alien population.
It's been taken over by a bunch of radical socialists waving their mexican flags and showing their allegiance to mexico, so they can take that flag and get the he** out of my Country and any politician that sides with them should leave with them too!
Well, maybe you should ask Johnnie to not barge into threads with flame-bait posts like this:
But that right, it is not about the facts, it's about the in the closet DNC mouthpieces here on Free Repubic
Although I must admit the typo Free Repubic is funny, but posting guidelines prohibit me from taking the joke further.
But the point is, if you want civility, demand it from your own side as well.
Oh, and lose the "hate" routine. That's a lame-arsed Dem tactic to decry political disagreements as hate.
Because I was showing you that Johnnie tries to start flame wars with his posts.
MY SIDE is GOD, AMERICA, and the Republican Party... in THAT order!
And what does that have to do with the fact that if you want civility, you should ask it of your own side as well?
Hate on this board exists bigtime! To deny that fact is to be disingenuous!
HATE! HATE! YOU ARE FULL OF HATE! YOU DISAGREE WITH ME, SO YOU ARE HATEFUL! /Democrat mode.
Vote Libertarian. The GOP has lost their way.
7 posted on 03/25/2006 5:10:28 AM MST by kjo
the Libertarian Party supports OPEN BORDERS WHY?
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