It would surprise me if there was any meaningful difference in any browser based upon the "quality of the OS."
Can you itemize any such differences, or do they not exist?
Posted on 03/24/2006 4:53:26 PM PST by Vermonter
If you like Russian hackers in control of your boot process.
I hear that in Afghanistan you can be executed for doing that.
You said -- "Same here and Apple just doesn't understand that."
In reality, it's you that doesn't understand Apple. The Mac OS X is to support the hardware they make -- and *not* -- the hardware is to support the Mac OS X. You're thinking backwards as to what Apple is doing.
You're thinking Apple is a software company and "My, my..., how much better Apple would be doing if they would allow me to buy their software!" Nope, they don't want to sell you their software. They want to sell you their hardware.
Regards,
Star Traveler
Yep, and the U.N. has a whole division devoted to the spread of open source now. I bet you feel safe with them.
You said -- "I'd have a hard time getting past the one-button mouse; that pretty much tells me the guy writing the software views the Apple customer as a total idiot."
The one-button mouse is a wonderful thing and I enjoy using it. However, perhaps you don't know that support is there for a two-button mouse (or "multiple button).
As far as how Apple has designed their interface, I would say that many people are pleased with it. It's come from many studies that they've done as to what people want. And it seems to work very well.
But, even so -- with all that said -- you were never stopped or blocked from using a two-button mouse, if you wanted to. It's there and it's available.
Regards,
Star Traveler
That was funny Hal. It wasn't correct, but it was a good comeback.
O/S is definitely not 90's. Obviously even the hosting systems have to have O/S's.
It's too bad Apple won't release a shrinkwrap or downloadable version of OSX (even for XBOX or PS2, I wish they would) but that doesn't mean they should have to accept Russian hackers cracking their encryption, and potentially costing them billions in sales of either hardware or software. We all know it can be done, with enough effort, so it's going to have to be against the law. Hopefully Russia still has some in effect, but I'm starting to wonder.
Usually, it's used where "crackers" is the correct word.
These guys are "crackers" too. Read the article again, they "cracked" the encryption and DRM layers. So that makes them both hackers and crackers, in both past and present usage of the terms.
It's too bad Apple won't release a shrinkwrap or downloadable version of OSX
Apple does sell shrinkwrapped versions of Mac OS X for Mac hardware owners, including a five-license Family Pack for $199. I expect the next major release ( Mac OS X 10.5 "Leopard") will have some stronger measures against OS piracy, using some of their recently patented technology that will prevent unauthorized hot-patching and improve security.
It would surprise me if there was any meaningful difference in any browser based upon the "quality of the OS."
Can you itemize any such differences, or do they not exist?
I know, it's not like almost everyone who runs any kind of 'nix has a network mapper written by a Russian hacker.
The world's really coming to an end! Our military is using open source software written by a Russian hacker to secure its networks!
If they are, then we need to know about it. The main thing is preventing something like that from ever happening in the first place, which means keeping guys like you off of there completey it sounds like.
There are too many to itemize. For some examples, try searching Google for - "internet explorer" activex vulnerability
So there are no differences in user-features between browsers in different OS's, save for debates over security?
Apple like all other companies should be in the business of making money. Making OS X compatible with the PC would do just that. Make them a lot of money.
You said -- "Apple like all other companies should be in the business of making money. Making OS X compatible with the PC would do just that. Make them a lot of money."
The last time I looked, they were making a lot of it, along with what they do best (making good products).
But, then again, if you think they could make more than that -- I would say Steve Jobs has a job for you. Give him a call. I'm sure he would put you in charge, with this insightful information you have.
Get back to me when you relocate down there in Cupertino.
Regards,
Star Traveler
they make some now but they are only what 2-3% marketshare? Move into the PC market and your Apple hardware marketshare in
the next few years would increase, ALONG with the extra money made on the software for PC's, Apple needs to win over PC converts and forcing them to use their hardware isn't working.
If a feature depends on the operating system, then OS-based differences can exist.
You said -- "they make some now but they are only what 2-3% marketshare? Move into the PC market and your Apple hardware marketshare in
the next few years would increase, ALONG with the extra money made on the software for PC's, Apple needs to win over PC converts and forcing them to use their hardware isn't working."
I've heard a lot of armchair quarterbacks over the years -- and yet, Steve Jobs and Apple seems to be doing better all the same. And, on top of that -- I like the products that I'm getting.
So, what it comes down to -- is you're talking to the wrong end of the donkey here. You better go writing some e-mail to Steve Jobs, since he's the one who is running the company (and seems to be doing well at it).
What I've written here before was to *explain* the thinking of Apple of the matter -- not "run" the company. And I personally don't have a problem with the thinking, as it currently is with Apple.
So, again -- after explaining the thinking involved -- that doesn't mean that I'm in charge of marketing and production. Therefore, after I've explained -- that's the end of my "job" -- you see.
If you've got a problem with their strategies -- guess who the person is to talk to.
And -- like I said before -- since you think so well of your strategies, obviously Steve Jobs is going to be impressed, too. And so well impressed is he going to be -- you'll be moving down to Cupertino.
Thus, that's why I said, write me back when you arrive.
Shore of that (you taking over down there) -- I would have to say -- when comparing the wisdom of "strategies" -- you have yourself on one side and Steve Jobs on the other side.
I'll say -- let's "weight" the strategies by the size of your bank account, to Steve Jobs' bank account -- because that *represents* the "fruit [results] of the strategies involved*.
After we figure in the "weighting" and apply it to the value of your opinion versus the value of Steve Jobs' opinion -- then we'll have something to work with.
HOWEVER -- I'm just afraid after I factor in the "weighting" of the opinions -- I just won't be able to find your opinion any more... (and you see..., that's the problem...).
Regards,
Star Traveler
True, in theory...but are there any differences in features for a browser based upon different OS's?
My point is that the OS doesn't matter...the browser matters. People who care about the OS are perhaps displaying an outdated, obsolete thought process.
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