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Hackers boot a Dell with Mac OS X (Intel)
Macwindows.com ^ | 3/24/06 | Unknown

Posted on 03/24/2006 4:53:26 PM PST by Vermonter

Hackers boot a Dell with Mac OS X (Intel). March 24, 2006 -- Unidentified programmers have hacked the Intel version of Mac OS X to enable it to boot a Dell PC. A file called the "JaS4.2b patch" can be used to create a customized installer DVD for installing on a Dell PC.

A website called MacaDell describes the patch. The MacDell site has also has a page that describes how to use the JaS4.2b patch to create a customized installer disc for Mac OS X.

Using the hack is illegal because it breaks Apple’s Mac OS X license agreement, which specifies that the operating system be run on an “Apple-labeled computer.”

According to MacaDell, work on the hack began when a Russian hacker known as Maxxuss cracked the encrypted security layer in Mac OS X that usually requires the software to be installed on a certain Mac model. Other hackers added to the work, and a programmer known as JaS put the work together in the JaS4.2b patch.

The hack emulates the EFI boot firmware found in Intel-based Macs. It also emulates an instruction set called SSE3 in order to support processors older than the Dual Core used in the Intel Macs. MacaDell reports that the hack doesn’t work on every computer, and doesn’t support some functions, such as wireless networking and certain audio and video cards.

At this point, the Intel version of Mac OS X is only available with the purchase of an Intel-based Mac.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: apple; dell; intel; mac; macintelosh; osx
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To: JerseyHighlander

RE Dell mainboard issue:

GX270, GX280 and whatever else uses the same mainboard.

http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1034
http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=450

http://news.com.com/Bulging+capacitors+haunt+Dell/2100-1003_3-5924742.html?tag=nl
http://news.com.com/Dells+third-quarter+earnings+slip/2100-1003_3-5924630.html?tag=nl
http://news.com.com/Dells+dilemma--its+about+pricing/2100-1003_3-5926477.html?part=rss&tag=5926477&subj=news


281 posted on 03/27/2006 10:59:07 AM PST by MD_Willington_1976
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To: MD_Willington_1976

All that stuff is either made in Taiwan or China, maybe MSI needs to tighten the QC, although lots of companies have had problems in the last couple years with capacitors not just MSI/Dell.


282 posted on 03/27/2006 12:19:53 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: MD_Willington_1976
here is an article from a couple years ago about Abit and the cause of the leaky capacitors.here

Not just Abit boards. Microstar, Asus, Gigabyte and PC Chips boards, too.

283 posted on 03/27/2006 12:26:57 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: hedgetrimmer

hedge, what's your point.

BTW, I like your tagline. I have something in common with a commie. Wow. That guy you quote is a commie, right? I'm with Rush. Let the commies become capitalists. Hopefully the democrat party gets started over there also. In fact the easiest way to kill foreign competition is not protectionism but getting a branch of the ABA started!!


284 posted on 03/27/2006 12:38:48 PM PST by Sunnyflorida ((Elections Matter)
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To: Echo Talon

One of these days Apple will enter the OS arena... even if it must be done kicking and screaming.


285 posted on 03/27/2006 12:45:51 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

I just don't understand their reluctance. Make money and converts in one fell swoop. put some pressure on MS, instead of just giving them the whole PC market.


286 posted on 03/27/2006 12:52:57 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Echo Talon

Well, don't be too mad at them...

They control the sandbox on their hardware... so from a support perspective its great....

Lord knows I wouldn't want to spend my time writing drivers for every cheap piece of hardware ever built and then take the reputation hit when the computer crashes because of crap drivers or crap hardware or both.

Anymore file formats are no longer an issue... so basically if there was a time for true OS competition, the time has never been better.


287 posted on 03/27/2006 12:57:32 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: MD_Willington_1976

Thanks,
This was my exact situation.
I went and spent an hour to find the capacitor with my multimeter. I didn't know what a was dealing with, couldn't google about it.


288 posted on 03/27/2006 12:58:42 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: HamiltonJay
Apple have the hardware companies make the drivers and they could test them, like MS does with authenticated drivers WHQL
289 posted on 03/27/2006 1:03:20 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Echo Talon

It doesn't matter, whether they have "certified" drivers or not... you buy hardware, and it doesn't work, Apple takes the reputation hit... Joe Schmoe doesn't care if the driver was certified or not, he doesn't likely even know his $5 network card is to blame.. he just know his computer crashes...

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see UNIX on the desktop with a nice reliable GUI vs Windows... but I can also understand apples reluctance to it..


290 posted on 03/27/2006 1:08:54 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

Well, they could start out with putting it on "New" systems(Dell, IBM, Gateway, HP) that have drivers for all the hardware. Then after awhile new componets that are sold could be labled "apple PC compatible" like on Motherboards, Video cards, Nic cards etc.


291 posted on 03/27/2006 1:15:37 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: HamiltonJay
Photoshop CS2 May Not Come to Intel-Macs
292 posted on 03/27/2006 1:28:21 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Star Traveler; BJungNan; Bush2000

The real problem here is that you want me to buy your trash PC, as if that's a better deal for me. I'm just getting to the point.

I don't want your trash PC because Apple has made a more elegant and refined solution for the "rest of us" -- with Mac OS X and the Macintosh computer. It works, it works great and it works for the mass of people in their daily lives. That's where you need to get a clue.


Um, "the rest of us"? The "mass of people"?

Is that HolyJobsSpeek for "one percent and dropping"?

LOL!


And you can talk all day long about how garbage smells so sweet -- but that doesn't mean I want that garbage...
Has anyone ever mentioned anything to you about that trademark Macolyte "attitude"? That smarmy arrogance that turns the ownership of an appliance into a life-identity-shaping experience?

The more I see of the "Mac Attitude", the more I am convinced that the "penis-pill" spammers got their inspiration from seeing how even a tiny marginal percentage of the market can result in some kind of income, if one is willing to saturate the noisewaves with nonsense aimed at a particularly insecure class of consumer.

Or maybe they never even heard of Apple. It could be that they remembered hearing the kindergarten teacher reading them "The Emperor's New Clothes." (But then again, I guess the same could be said for Jobs' "inspiration" too, hey? LOL!)

293 posted on 03/27/2006 11:06:28 PM PST by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: coconutt2000; Bush2000
...and most people who want a Mac want it because it is a Mac.

Bingo.

The 99% of the people who buy computers, buy them to meet their computing needs (word processing, database management, entertainment, work-related (i.e., vertical market apps), etc.

The one percent of the market that Apple has cornered tends to buy their expensive trinkets "to feel good about themselves."

Steve Jobs could sell invisible clothing to an emperor, I suspect. That's his main strength -- selling. He got his start, as I recall, selling telephone "blue-boxes"; he took the proceeds from the sales of those illegal devices, used for stealing services (driving costs UP for "the rest of us") and used them to grubstake his computer company (his Good Friend "the other Steve" did the actual work, while Steve One pranced about wowing the crowds, collecting their money.

Reminds me of a sort of "digital Elmer Gantry", in a "funny 'ho-ho'" kind of way.

While Steevie was "leveraging" the sales of illegal devices, that "greedy" Bill Gates was writing software to (*gasp*) sell (why, that greedy so-and-so!) to get money to build his company.

Then there was that whole "trip to Xerox PARC" moment... LOL!

294 posted on 03/27/2006 11:19:45 PM PST by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Echo Talon
they make some now but they are only what 2-3% marketshare?

That was a few years ago. I think they are currently about 1% of the market.

It kinda makes all that grand sweeping braggadocio about "the masses" and "for the rest of us" ring rather hollow.

295 posted on 03/27/2006 11:50:25 PM PST by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Don Joe

im not sure of their total % but its not very high. If I were them I would be doing everything I could to turn that around.
From the percentages of mac ownership owning a mac is like being gay, whats the % of gay people in the US? like 3% or something?


296 posted on 03/28/2006 12:04:24 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Paul C. Jesup

And here is where you'll never make a "Steve Jobs" -- like "Does anybody care?"

You're not even posting about what I stated on drivers, instead you continue to post drival.

You're like a child who bends to peer pressure and attacks anyone who doesn't.

You're taking my statements on driver personally, for what reasons I did not know. But you really need to calm down.


I think you've got him pegged. For someone who "doesn't care", he sure goes on, and on, and on -- a lot -- about that which he supposedly "doesn't care" about. LOL!

Hell, he posted THREE replies to your one post above!

Where I come from, when you don't care about what someone says, you don't devote your life to trying to convince him that you "don't care" about what he says. You don't "outword" him ten to one, nipping at his heels, countering everything he says, all the while insisting that you "don't care" about what he says.

If you "don't care" about someone, you ignore him!

(Q. "What do I have to do to convince you I don't care?"
A. "Nothing!")

Sheesh, how sad. If one thing is crystal clear, it's that he does care about what you say, and about what you think. Classic insecurity -- the earmark of the classic Mac consumer. "Buy our crap and be someone!"

297 posted on 03/28/2006 12:21:01 AM PST by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Vermonter

Can you say "unsupported configuration"? Good luck running software on that.


298 posted on 03/28/2006 12:22:15 AM PST by thoughtomator (Pacifism is objectively pro-terrorist; Amnesty for illegals is objectively anti-American)
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To: Echo Talon
From the percentages of mac ownership owning a mac is like being gay, whats the % of gay people in the US? like 3% or something?

Last I heard, the percentage of homosexuals in the total population was something between one and two percent. Gee, that is the same range as Mac owners!

Of course, whackjobs like Kinsey claimed that the homosexual percentage was ten percent (a figure the homosexual activists still assert) -- but, his target population was the prison population. So I guess by his logic, the percentage of thieves, murderers, and other various crooks must be astoundingly high too!

Y'know, if Apple ever manages to get prisons to start using Macs, I'll bet the Macolytes will have a whole new set of numbers to brag up! LOL!

299 posted on 03/28/2006 12:25:44 AM PST by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Echo Talon
I'm replying to your reply, because the original was deleted due to Mr. Traveler having violated the Updated FR Excerpt and Link Only or Deny Posting List due to Copyright Complaints list from the ("These publishers have asked us not to allow any material at all to be posted to FR") category, by posting an article from Vanity Fair (the post evaporated as I was composing my comment!) One part of that puff-piece claimed (in gushing, florid language) that the ability to do video manipulation was something given to the media industry by the Mac.

Wrong. Think "Video Toaster" and "Commodore Amiga", both of which were deployed to post-production shops while the Mac was still in diapers.

It then went on to assert that the personal computer obtained its identity from Jobs, making a passing reference to him having channeled something from Xerox PARC.

LOL!

"Channeled" must be smarmspeek for "lifted".

Xerox tolerated the offense, until Apple, having collected fees from Microsoft for GUI "permission", turned around and sued Microsoft for having the temerity to use what they'd paid to use.

At that point, Xerox was no longer amused, and proceeded to sue Apple for lifting the Xerox STAR interface, claim it as their own, and then sell it to Microsoft.

As I recall, in each of those actions, the "other parties" prevailed.

But, that kind of gall -- to sell what they'd taken from someone else ("It's ours, we stole it fair and square!") -- is not surprising, coming as it did from a company founded on grubstake financing obtained via the manufacture and sale of illegal telephone "blueboxes".

300 posted on 03/28/2006 1:14:14 AM PST by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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