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Critics Say "Self-Defense" Bill Would Mean License To Kill [Ohio]
9News | 3/22/2006

Posted on 03/22/2006 10:20:21 PM PST by ncountylee

Critics believe new legislation in Ohio, Kentucky and several other states will give people a license to kill.

If passed, the victim of a home invasion robbery or car-jacking would have the right to "shoot to kill" to protect themselves.

It's called the "self-defense" bill.

Mitch Daniels, the current governor of Indiana, just signed it into law today.

Tom Scheben, the spokesperson for the Boone County sheriff's department, says he doesn't believe most citizens will misuse a deadly force law.

"I think you see one, every once in a while, and when you do there is mitigating circumstances,.i.e. drugs," said Scheben.

"Otherwise burglars for the most part are just thieves that break into buildings to accomplish their goals," said Scheben. "If there is somebody there, nine times out of 10, they don't go in that house."

In Ohio the law would also make it illegal for the suspect's family to sue the victim for wrongful death.

The bill is still going through the legislative process in Ohio and Kentucky.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
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1 posted on 03/22/2006 10:20:24 PM PST by ncountylee
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To: ncountylee

More like a license to live.


2 posted on 03/22/2006 10:21:47 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: ncountylee

If passed, the victim of a home invasion robbery or car-jacking would have the right to "shoot to kill" to protect themselves."

So whats the problem?


3 posted on 03/22/2006 10:22:13 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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the victim...would have the right to "shoot to kill" to protect themselves.

Gee, I thought we already had this right.

4 posted on 03/22/2006 10:24:04 PM PST by opinionator
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"If there is somebody there, nine times out of 10, they don't go in that house."

Only because they fear the homeowner has a gun and might kill them. In England, where there are no guns [cough] there is a rise in "hot roberries": where the perp robs you while you are at home, and helps himself to your wife and daughter.

Make no mistake, illegal or not, if a criminal breaks into my house I will shoot him dead. I will aim center mass and, once he's down, will put two more into his head just to be sure.


5 posted on 03/22/2006 10:27:12 PM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: ncountylee
When have any of these "we are all going to shoot and kill each other" hysterics EVER been right? They are just useful idiots working for those who would enslave us, and take away our constitutional rights.
6 posted on 03/22/2006 10:29:07 PM PST by Exton1
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To: Fenris6
Make no mistake, illegal or not, if a criminal breaks into my house I will shoot him dead.

Same result at my house. Wife is armed too, so she might do the honors but dead will be the verdict.

7 posted on 03/22/2006 10:30:44 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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Here's the part I like:

In Ohio the law would also make it illegal for the suspect's family to sue the victim for wrongful death.

Now that's a good law. I hope it passes.

L

8 posted on 03/22/2006 10:35:03 PM PST by Lurker (I trust in God. Everyone else shows me their hands.)
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To: ncountylee

Doesn't matter to me - don't need no license to exercise my right... Their fingerprints, though - that I'd take.


9 posted on 03/22/2006 10:36:51 PM PST by kingu (Liberalism: The art of sticking your fingers in your ears and going NANANANA..)
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"Police have said that Zebuhr, his mother, his sister and a friend had dined at an Uptown restaurant Saturday night and were walking to their vehicle when two men robbed them about 9:55 p.m. The victims didn't resist, police said, and Zebuhr's mother handed over her purse before Zebuhr was shot."

http://www.startribune.com/467/story/322376.html

As much as I'd like a law like this to pass in Minnesota, It'll never happen.


10 posted on 03/22/2006 10:37:10 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Carry Daily, Apply Sparingly)
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To: ncountylee
Ah, liberals. They'll defend cold-blooded murderers and pedophiles but deny us the right to defend ourselves and our loved ones. Screw 'em.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

11 posted on 03/22/2006 10:38:20 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Fenris6
if a criminal breaks into my house I will shoot him dead. I will aim center mass and, once he's down, will put two more into his head just to be sure.

Question. Do you call Merry Maids or 911 first?

12 posted on 03/22/2006 10:44:35 PM PST by Cobra64
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Everytime a state passes a law light this one critics claim it will lead to a bloodbath, slaughter in the streets. The only problem is that for states that have such laws in effect there has been no such bloodbath and the crime rate has gone down.


13 posted on 03/22/2006 10:50:52 PM PST by ops33 (Retired USAF Senior Master Sergeant)
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To: ncountylee
A number of states have passed these type laws.

Their purpose is not to give a home owner the right to kill as their opponents claim.

What they do is protect the home owner from being sued by the criminal if he is injured or wounded and they also prevent the family of the criminal from suing the property owner in the event he is killed. A very important and worth while law.

The ones who don't like it are the criminals and the trial lawyers.

Make no mistake about it even if it is ruled a justifiable shooting if you pull the trigger and wound or kill a criminal in your home without the protection of these type laws there is a very good chance you will lose if not all at least a large part of everything you have.

That's why a number of states are passing them.

14 posted on 03/22/2006 11:01:04 PM PST by mississippi red-neck (You will never win the war on terrorism by fighting it in Iraq and funding it in the West Bank.)
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" if a criminal breaks into my house I will shoot him dead. I will aim center mass and, once he's down, will put two more into his head just to be sure.

Question. Do you call Merry Maids or 911 first?"


Technically you cannot. You can only shoot to stop the other two to the head would be used against you. If they were all a part of the same action (to stop) you might be alright. Then you should immediately continue to secure your family and the dwelling assuming the intruder has friends in the house or just outside.

I would call the local PD on their regular number. Once the bad guy/s are dead and the house is secured it is no longer an emergency and you could get into trouble for misuse of the 911 system

W


15 posted on 03/22/2006 11:03:34 PM PST by WLR ("fugit impius nemine persequente iustus autem quasi leo confidens absque terrore erit")
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To: WLR

My question was a joke.


16 posted on 03/22/2006 11:10:04 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: Fenris6

Home invasion is sufficient reason to shoot to kill in Louisiana. Been that way for as long as I can remember.


17 posted on 03/22/2006 11:18:42 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: mississippi red-neck

I'd like to see the juries that handed these awards out. Juries usually LOVE it when home invaders get whacked.


18 posted on 03/22/2006 11:20:49 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: WLR

"Technically you cannot."

Yup, you're right. I'm thinking if I empty the clip into him, 2 more to the head is not unreasonable for forensics. Panic and adrenaline.

I will grab a new gun and call 9-11 after the kill, and claim I saw other perps with him.


19 posted on 03/22/2006 11:41:31 PM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: ncountylee

A license to kill assholes...hmmm...not a bad thing...


20 posted on 03/22/2006 11:58:19 PM PST by trailboss800
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