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Conservative Kids Whiny, Liberal Kids confidet study suggests( barf alert)
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Posted on 03/22/2006 1:33:29 PM PST by SDGOP

How to spot a baby conservative KID POLITICS | Whiny children, claims a new study, tend to grow up rigid and traditional. Future liberals, on the other hand ... Mar. 19, 2006. 10:45 AM KURT KLEINER SPECIAL TO THE STAR

Remember the whiny, insecure kid in nursery school, the one who always thought everyone was out to get him, and was always running to the teacher with complaints? Chances are he grew up to be a conservative.

At least, he did if he was one of 95 kids from the Berkeley area that social scientists have been tracking for the last 20 years. The confident, resilient, self-reliant kids mostly grew up to be liberals.

The study from the Journal of Research Into Personality isn't going to make the UC Berkeley professor who published it any friends on the right. Similar conclusions a few years ago from another academic saw him excoriated on right-wing blogs, and even led to a Congressional investigation into his research funding.

But the new results are worth a look. In the 1960s Jack Block and his wife and fellow professor Jeanne Block (now deceased) began tracking more than 100 nursery school kids as part of a general study of personality. The kids' personalities were rated at the time by teachers and assistants who had known them for months. There's no reason to think political bias skewed the ratings — the investigators were not looking at political orientation back then. Even if they had been, it's unlikely that 3- and 4-year-olds would have had much idea about their political leanings.

A few decades later, Block followed up with more surveys, looking again at personality, and this time at politics, too. The whiny kids tended to grow up conservative, and turned into rigid young adults who hewed closely to traditional gender roles and were uncomfortable with ambiguity.

The confident kids turned out liberal and were still hanging loose, turning into bright, non-conforming adults with wide interests. The girls were still outgoing, but the young men tended to turn a little introspective.

Block admits in his paper that liberal Berkeley is not representative of the whole country. But within his sample, he says, the results hold. He reasons that insecure kids look for the reassurance provided by tradition and authority, and find it in conservative politics. The more confident kids are eager to explore alternatives to the way things are, and find liberal politics more congenial.

In a society that values self-confidence and out-goingness, it's a mostly flattering picture for liberals. It also runs contrary to the American stereotype of wimpy liberals and strong conservatives.

Of course, if you're studying the psychology of politics, you shouldn't be surprised to get a political reaction. Similar work by John T. Jost of Stanford and colleagues in 2003 drew a political backlash. The researchers reviewed 44 years worth of studies into the psychology of conservatism, and concluded that people who are dogmatic, fearful, intolerant of ambiguity and uncertainty, and who crave order and structure are more likely to gravitate to conservatism. Critics branded it the "conservatives are crazy" study and accused the authors of a political bias.

Jost welcomed the new study, saying it lends support to his conclusions. But Jeff Greenberg, a social psychologist at the University of Arizona who was critical of Jost's study, was less impressed.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- `I found (the Jack Block study) to be biased, shoddy work, poor science at best'

Jeff Greenberg University of Arizona

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"I found it to be biased, shoddy work, poor science at best," he said of the Block study. He thinks insecure, defensive, rigid people can as easily gravitate to left-wing ideologies as right-wing ones. He suspects that in Communist China, those kinds of people would likely become fervid party members.

The results do raise some obvious questions. Are nursery school teachers in the conservative heartland cursed with classes filled with little proto-conservative whiners?

Or does an insecure little boy raised in Idaho or Alberta surrounded by conservatives turn instead to liberalism?

Or do the whiny kids grow up conservative along with the majority of their more confident peers, while only the kids with poor impulse control turn liberal?

Part of the answer is that personality is not the only factor that determines political leanings. For instance, there was a .27 correlation between being self-reliant in nursery school and being a liberal as an adult. Another way of saying it is that self-reliance predicts statistically about 7 per cent of the variance between kids who became liberal and those who became conservative. (If every self-reliant kid became a liberal and none became conservatives, it would predict 100 per cent of the variance). Seven per cent is fairly strong for social science, but it still leaves an awful lot of room for other influences, such as friends, family, education, personal experience and plain old intellect.

For conservatives whose feelings are still hurt, there is a more flattering way for them to look at the results. Even if they really did tend to be insecure complainers as kids, they might simply have recognized that the world is a scary, unfair place.

Their grown-up conclusion that the safest thing is to stick to tradition could well be the right one. As for their "rigidity," maybe that's just moral certainty.

The grown-up liberal men, on the other hand, with their introspection and recognition of complexity in the world, could be seen as self-indulgent and ineffectual.

Whether anyone's feelings are hurt or not, the work suggests that personality and emotions play a bigger role in our political leanings than we think. All of us, liberal or conservative, feel as though we've reached our political opinions by carefully weighing the evidence and exercising our best judgment. But it could be that all of that careful reasoning is just after-the-fact self-justification. What if personality forms our political outlook, with reason coming along behind, rationalizing after the fact?

It could be that whom we vote for has less to do with our judgments about tax policy or free trade or health care, and more with the personalities we've been stuck with since we were kids.


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What a BS bogus study. Watch liberals to pump this for all its worth. I'm sorry, but 95 kids in an isolated enviornment is not a representative sample. Especially when its likely the results were skewed by the political beliefs of the scientists. I've worked in a lab before, this is just another quack study.
1 posted on 03/22/2006 1:33:33 PM PST by SDGOP
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To: SDGOP

Posted many times already, with a different headline.


2 posted on 03/22/2006 1:34:40 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: MineralMan
This article has to be approaching a record for number of times posted.
3 posted on 03/22/2006 1:35:11 PM PST by Borges
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To: SDGOP
How to spot an adult liberal

4 posted on 03/22/2006 1:36:28 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: SDGOP

Like everything else at Berkeley, their little darlings are hardly representative of those of the rest of the country.


5 posted on 03/22/2006 1:36:53 PM PST by paddles
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To: SDGOP
Here we go again.....
Sure glad it is not me posting!
6 posted on 03/22/2006 1:37:01 PM PST by GrandEagle
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To: Borges

3rd one still on the front page but will drop off with the next thread.


7 posted on 03/22/2006 1:37:05 PM PST by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: SDGOP

Most liberals I've ever met are the biggest complainers on earth. And it makes sense because nothing is ever good enough and they're always looking for their own personal justice.


8 posted on 03/22/2006 1:37:08 PM PST by libertarianPA (http://www.amarxica.com)
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To: SDGOP
Sure, the Liberals are all self-confident and brash, particularly when they put out their hands, palm up, expecting you to give them all your money.

And if you don't, they will take it at the point of a gun ~ which, in Liberal-land, only Liberals or their jackbooted thugs will have.

Why these guys should be proud of being street thugs is a very good question.

9 posted on 03/22/2006 1:37:21 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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hehe


10 posted on 03/22/2006 1:38:15 PM PST by SDGOP
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To: MineralMan

Yeah?

Well. . . I'm gonna whine until it's posted 50 TIMES!


11 posted on 03/22/2006 1:38:48 PM PST by Flyer (Send Beer)
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To: Echo Talon

Is that a human being?

I've seen more attractive creatures coming up through drains.


12 posted on 03/22/2006 1:39:04 PM PST by jdm
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To: SDGOP

Of course if you are a conservative kid and you know things aren't right, you will complain. The liberal kids were getting spoonfed and had no reason to complain.


13 posted on 03/22/2006 1:40:03 PM PST by PeterPrinciple (Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: SDGOP
The study from the Journal of Research Into Personality isn't going to make the UC Berkeley professor who published it any friends on the right. Similar conclusions a few years ago from another academic saw him excoriated on right-wing blogs, and even led to a Congressional investigation into his research funding.

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Bezerkely

Deja Vu.

14 posted on 03/22/2006 1:40:40 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: jdm
just found it on Yahoo picture search... in the lifestyle section.

here
Guess her name is Betty Katz Sperlich of Santa Fe, New Mexico

15 posted on 03/22/2006 1:42:04 PM PST by Echo Talon
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"At least, he did if he was one of 95 kids from the Berkeley area that social scientists have been tracking for the last 20 years"

There was even one conservative kid out of 95 in Berkeley? That alone is a record breaker.

16 posted on 03/22/2006 1:42:10 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (The Prophet Muhammed, Piss Be Upon Him)
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To: SDGOP

Does this mean that 'bold and confident' children grown up to whiners and complainers like ALGORE & JOHNSKERRY?


17 posted on 03/22/2006 1:43:48 PM PST by Friend_from_the_Frozen_North (Was -50 in February & now Global Warming is causing cars to slide off icy roads...)
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To: SDGOP

If I were stuck in a nursery school in Berkeley, forced to wear a little red scarf and march around chanting communist slogans, I'd whine too.


18 posted on 03/22/2006 1:44:21 PM PST by Argus
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To: SDGOP

An alternative view: Conservative kids are responsible, detailed and realistic. Liberal kids are impulsive, arrogant and compromising.


19 posted on 03/22/2006 1:46:26 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: SDGOP

This means that we get all our whining out of our systems when we're kids, while the liberals begin when they reach adulthood, if in fact they ever do reach adulthood, and they never stop whining thereafter.


20 posted on 03/22/2006 1:47:14 PM PST by Daveinyork
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