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Bar Sweep Sparks Controversy (Drunk People Arrested in Bars!!)
NBC5i.com ^ | March 23, 2006

Posted on 03/22/2006 10:40:15 AM PST by Daytyn71

The Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission sent a message to bar patrons last week.

TABC agents and Irving police swept through 36 Irving bars and arrested about 30 people on charges of public intoxication. Agency representatives say the move came as a proactive measure to curtail drunken driving.

North Texans interviewed by NBC 5, however, worried that the sweep went too far.

At one location, for example, agents and police arrested patrons of a hotel bar. Some of the suspects said they were registered at the hotel and had no intention of driving. Arresting authorities said the patrons were a danger to themselves and others.

"Going to a bar is not an opportunity to go get drunk," TABC Capt. David Alexander said. "It's to have a good time but not to get drunk."

Dallas comedian Steve Harvey agreed with the Texas residents who said the arrests infringed on individual rights.

"If a guy's got a designated driver, go ahead and let him get toasted," Harvey told NBC 5.

Texas law states that inebriated individuals could be subjected to arrest anywhere for public intoxication. Harvey and other North Texans called the measure extreme.

"That seems to be an extreme case," one man said. "You are self-contained, in the hotel, you're not going in the streets, it seems a little ridiculous."

TABC officials said the sweep concerned saving lives, not individual rights. Harvey and others interviewed by NBC 5 said they believe drunken driving to be unacceptable, although Harvey wanted to confirm that the United States remains a free country.

"Freedom of drinking should always be allowed, and it is only American to let a guy get drunk where he wants to get drunk," Harvey said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: bars; beer; brownshirts; dallas; donutwatch; drunkdriving; fourthamendment; houston; leoabuse; liqour; policestate; revenueenhancement; sanantonio; spelling; texas; theman
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To: Gabz
Not in many places anymore.......A Massachusetts Court just today ruled that private clubs are subject to the same nanny state nonsense that Joe's Tavern is

That's alright, private clubs, just like taverns here in upstate New York are closing left and right due to the DUI and smoking laws. Moose club, elks, even some vets clubs, gone.
141 posted on 03/22/2006 12:53:29 PM PST by Wilum (Never loaded a nuke I didn't like)
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To: CJ Wolf

bigs doesn't need a zot just for having differant beliefs.....that's what freeping is all about.....conversation and critique.....


142 posted on 03/22/2006 12:53:39 PM PST by cherry
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To: Daytyn71

I tried a shot of whiskey, but I didn't swallow...


143 posted on 03/22/2006 12:53:47 PM PST by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton)
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To: NKByrum

It's funny, I was just searching for an article on the story and realized it was back in December 2002 that this happened.

Too many nights at the pub must have made all that time fly by.

I'm looking forward to checking out the new Ned Devine's in Sterling when I'm not pregnant or nursing. Friend of mine manages it and I hear it's an amazing place.


144 posted on 03/22/2006 12:54:02 PM PST by elc
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To: Petronski

But it's for the chill'run! LOL


145 posted on 03/22/2006 12:54:18 PM PST by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: takenoprisoner

It wasn't too long ago when a Texan could buy a plastic sleeve that would slip over a beer can, authentically relabeling it as a Pepsi.

I've never seen it, but I read about it.


146 posted on 03/22/2006 12:55:03 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: bearsgirl90
Did he really say this?

Yes.

147 posted on 03/22/2006 12:55:59 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: Daytyn71
TABC officials said the sweep concerned saving lives

He's right, it's about the revenue that will be generated by increases in DUI fines and convictions.

148 posted on 03/22/2006 12:56:51 PM PST by conservativebabe
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To: Daytyn71

I think the operative word is "public" intoxication. If the patron is in a bar, he is on private property and not in "public."


149 posted on 03/22/2006 12:57:44 PM PST by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: Petronski

That's too cool!


150 posted on 03/22/2006 12:58:56 PM PST by bearsgirl90
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To: Bigs from Michigan
You have no right what so ever to be plastered/drunk in public. Not in a moving car, behind the wheel, walking in the park, or down the street on your anchored boat, sitting on a bench, or any other location; period. What you do in your own home booze wise is up to you if you are an adult. In truth, your attitude is one of the reasons that there are 10s of thousands of people killed by boozed up drivers in this country every year.

Bigs from Michigan (Freeper since 2006/03/07)

....Troll or Prohibitionist?

151 posted on 03/22/2006 1:00:15 PM PST by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: Bigs from Michigan
You have no right what so ever to be plastered/drunk in public.

A bar or hotel is not "public" -- unless the government owns it.

152 posted on 03/22/2006 1:00:45 PM PST by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: cbkaty
....Troll or Prohibitionist?

In this case, I refuse to limit myself with the word "or."

....Troll and Prohibitionist?

153 posted on 03/22/2006 1:01:52 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: Bigs from Michigan
Why am I fascist...?

I give, why?

154 posted on 03/22/2006 1:02:17 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: Gabz

The bars raided where not paying the weekly bump.....


155 posted on 03/22/2006 1:03:39 PM PST by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: American_Centurion

This is the TABC who is out of control here. Irving PD "reluctently" assisted according to local new reports. I don't think the Irving PD chief is crazy about the idea either. The Dallas area TABC folks have always been a pain in the a**. Ask anyone who has to deal with them to get a liquor license.


156 posted on 03/22/2006 1:04:32 PM PST by toomanygrasshoppers ("In technical terminology, he's a loon")
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To: fella
Unfortunately, Belo, the publisher of The Dallas Morning News is dominated by descendants of the founders. They are not Yankees, but TINOs (Texans in name only).
157 posted on 03/22/2006 1:05:17 PM PST by Wallace T.
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To: BMIC
They should make every driver take a breathalyzer test as they leave the parking lot.

Recently, a routine police patrol was parked outside a local neighborhood bar in Minnesota.

Late in the evening, the officer noticed a man leaving the bar so intoxicated that he could barely walk. The man stumbled around the parking lot for a few minutes with the officer quietly watching.

After what seemed an eternity and trying his keys on five different vehicles, the man managed to find his own car which he fell into. He was there for a few minutes as a number of other patrons left the bar and drove off. Finally, he started his car, switched the wipers on and off (it was a dry night), flicked the hazard flasher on and off, tooted the horn and then switched on the lights. He moved the vehicle forward a few inches, reversed a little and then remained stationary for a few more minutes as more patrons left in their vehicles.

At last he pulled out of the parking lot and started to drive slowly down the street.

The police officer having patiently waited all this time, now started up his patrol car, put on the flashing lights, promptly pulled the man over and carried out a breathalyser test.

To his amazement the breathalyser indicated no evidence that the man consumed alcohol at all!

Dumbfounded, the officer said "I'll have to ask you to accompany me to the police station. This breathalyser equipment must be broken."

"I doubt it," said the man. "Tonight I'm the designated decoy."

158 posted on 03/22/2006 1:05:21 PM PST by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: Wilum
That's alright, private clubs, just like taverns here in upstate New York are closing left and right due to the DUI and smoking laws. Moose club, elks, even some vets clubs, gone.

I'm well aware of it - but no, I don't think it's alright.

Except for the Volunteer Fire departments, Elks, Moose, Vets clubs, all Bingos in Delware are hurting if not closed because of the ban there.

A few weeks ago Virginia tried to do it, and while it wuoldn't have covered the members only areas of the private clubs, it would cover the bingo/rental halls which are open to the public..........needless to say, I went through nearly 200 slips of paper with contact information for the committee meeting of the legislature about it at Bingo at my local Moose Lodge.

I still lived in Delware when they did it (before NY) so I have seen first hand the economic destruction these bans do.

159 posted on 03/22/2006 1:06:49 PM PST by Gabz (Smokers are the beta version)
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To: cbkaty

Most likely you are correct.


160 posted on 03/22/2006 1:09:01 PM PST by Gabz (Smokers are the beta version)
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