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Prospects of Terror: An Inquiry into Jihadi Alternatives (2) Must Read)
The American thinker ^ | 3/22/06 | J.R. Dunn

Posted on 03/22/2006 6:47:01 AM PST by Valin

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1 posted on 03/22/2006 6:47:04 AM PST by Valin
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To: Valin

[Part 2 in a three-part series. Part 1 may be read here. http://www.americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=5345]


2 posted on 03/22/2006 6:47:44 AM PST by Valin (Purple Fingers Rule!)
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To: 2banana; Mind-numbed Robot; Quilla; Dark Skies

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3 posted on 03/22/2006 6:49:32 AM PST by Valin (Purple Fingers Rule!)
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>>>(It’s interesting to note that Muslim leadership fully concurred – in 1980, the Islamic Council of Europe deliberately chose to concentrate the Muslim population into areas easy to oversee and control. This is not only a European error.)

Minority leaders always have loved the ghetto. They can get the stragglers and holdouts into the corral and away from anyone who would protect them.

One group of people who really get sold out as badly as The Iraqi Kurds in 1991 are the nonmilitant Islamic population of a place like France. At least some of them probably went to France to escape people like Moqtada Al-Sadr only to have his facsimile elevated to the rank of mayor, in the middle of their quiet Paris suburb.
4 posted on 03/22/2006 7:01:40 AM PST by .cnI redruM ("Brother, you can believe in stones, as long as you don't throw them at me. - W. Sultan)
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To: Valin

Bump for later reading.


5 posted on 03/22/2006 7:03:51 AM PST by DoctorMichael (The Fourth-Estate is a Fifth-Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Valin
Thanks for the ping. Mr. Dunn has an incredible grasp on the Jihadist mindset. Here's the link to yesterday's thread for Part I and a snip from same:

The Coalition displayed considerable adaptability once it became clear that insurgency was not simply gangs of stay-behinds but a broad and well-organized threat. Critics of the Coalition’s performance in Iraq rarely mention that U.S. forces switched with no preparation or warning from a maneuver warfare campaign to a urban combat scenario (known by the unlovely acronym MOUT—Military Operations in Urbanized Terrain), and in truth one of the most difficult – battling an insurrection hiding among a friendly civilian population. The credit for this generally smooth transition goes to outstanding training and excellent commanders – the success of Gen. David Petraeus of the 101st Airborne in pacifying Mosul and that of Col. H.R. McMaster’s 3rd Armored Combat Regiment in Tal Afar will be studied for years to come.

6 posted on 03/22/2006 7:05:56 AM PST by Quilla
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To: Valin
Possible European Response

Oh - that will eventually be along the lines of a Hitler, Mussolini, Tito, etc. It will be bloody and violent.

7 posted on 03/22/2006 7:18:31 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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8 posted on 03/22/2006 7:26:54 AM PST by reformedliberal
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To: 2banana

Yes, I agree. The people of Europe can be very vicious, hard, and ruthless when pushed too far. Many here are misled by the present passivity of their governments, run by elitist fools in the mold of Neville Chamberlain. When the rubber meets the road, the Muslims will be eradicated from Europe.


9 posted on 03/22/2006 7:37:37 AM PST by expatpat
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A pleasant fiction. Europe has already capitulated.


10 posted on 03/22/2006 8:10:11 AM PST by karnage
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To: 2banana

And should be of concern to all.


11 posted on 03/22/2006 9:54:58 AM PST by Valin (Purple Fingers Rule!)
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To: karnage

The fiction is yours.


12 posted on 03/22/2006 10:52:34 AM PST by expatpat
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To: expatpat

I hope and pray that you are correct. But empirical evidence suggests otherwise.


13 posted on 03/22/2006 11:47:39 AM PST by karnage
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I'm afriad karnage is correct. Reminds me of a Pogo comic strip I saw a long time ago. The caption read: We have met the enemy and he is US.

Europe has been so tolerant of the muslim infiltration that many countries are approaching saturation. In fact UK may well become a muslim nation within 10 years without a shot being fired, just on the birthrate. Well, the British civilians couldn't fire any shots even if they wanted to, but you get my drift.

Many here are misled by the present passivity of their governments, run by elitist fools in the mold of Neville Chamberlain.

Europe has no choice but to obey their passive governments on this issue. You'll notice the EU is only passive on this issue, not in the area of controlling their own populations. Just exactly how are the Europeans as a people going to buck their government's wishes absent personal firearms and a collective will to revolt? Something like that...on that scale...hasn't happened since the 1400's. Sheep don't rise up and eradicate the wolves.....

14 posted on 03/22/2006 12:10:09 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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You are just spouting the conventional wisdom around here. These are people who have a ruthless, get-the-job-done streak, hidden for the moment. Look at what nast work the Belgians did in the Congo, the Dutch in SA and Indonesia, the Germans everywhere in Europe, and even the French in Algeria. They are badly led, I grant you, but they will get rid of those leaders when it becomes necessary, just as the Brits traded Chamberlain for Churchill.


15 posted on 03/22/2006 1:32:07 PM PST by expatpat
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To: expatpat

nast = nasty, of course.


16 posted on 03/22/2006 1:32:43 PM PST by expatpat
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To: expatpat
I'm a history teacher and history...especially recent history... is on my side. ALL of the events you describe happened in excess of two generations ago. The spine has been bred out of the Europeans. Helpless sheep, now.
17 posted on 03/22/2006 2:14:51 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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The most recent example you could possibly offer would be the Falkland Island war (itself 23 years ago) and the only comparison would be to our little dustup on Grenada. In no way can that compare to what amounts to a modern day crusade. Oh, by the way...remember that the Euro's lost all of those, too.
18 posted on 03/22/2006 2:17:58 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: Valin
Very impressive essay.

"The Europeans have gotten themselves into this predicament through living a racist lie. The U.S., as the sole major country that has actually worked itself out of such a situation – rationally, intelligently, and over all justly—could play a role in educating both sides of the European divide. "

The feudal ghetto system didn't work any better for Moslems in Europe than it did for Jews, gypsies or any other group.
Europe, and the Islamic countries too, will learn from us- or decay.

19 posted on 03/22/2006 3:40:34 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: ExSoldier

Repeating your opinion multiple times doesn't make it so. You can't breed that kind of nastiness out in two generations!


20 posted on 03/22/2006 5:50:42 PM PST by expatpat
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