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Watts up? A bright idea (Global Warming/Oprah/Environmental Whacko Alert)
Newsday ^ | 3/16/2006 | RHODA AMON

Posted on 03/22/2006 5:14:34 AM PST by Born Conservative

Pupils launch bid to save Americans $2.3B in electric costs; seek Oprah's help in plan to dole out lightbulbs

Qiana Marks and 200 other North Babylon students hope to save the Earth - and also save the American public $2.3 billion in electric costs.

It's all part of a campaign begun yesterday in the Robert Moses Middle School to "fight global warming one lightbulb at a time," said Kenny Luna, eighth-grade science teacher.

Luna and his students want to give an energy-saving compact fluorescent lightbulb to every school child in America, "all 50 million between pre-kindergarten and 12th grade."

They're asking TV star Oprah Winfrey to help spread the word.

CFL bulbs use an average 75 percent less energy than normal lightbulbs. If every student changed one bulb, the saving at $46 per bulb would add up to $2.3 billion, Luna calculated.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsday.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: dhpl; energy; globalwarming; homedepot; northbabylon; oprah
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To: Born Conservative
All of those newer bulbs are made in China. Good idea. We get inferior illumination in our homes (although they do use less electricity) and they get our money so they can buy more fuel to operate their modern economy and higher standard of living while driving the cost of oil up.

We save a few billion (a fraction of a percent of our GDP) and they gain the means to eventually own all of us.
41 posted on 03/22/2006 6:43:22 AM PST by Final Authority
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To: wolfcreek

We have those little spirally flouescent ones and they don't all last the 5 years they're guaranteed to. OTOH, I've seen them at a pretty good price at Value (sp) home stores occasionally, and they do save on electricity. I think they're only worth it for lights that are left on constantly. We have a few that we use all the time and those have the flouescents. I do like the color of the incandescents better, they're a much warmer looking light.


42 posted on 03/22/2006 6:43:35 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Wonder Warthog

I've only had one burn out in 4 years. I guess it depends on the brand?


44 posted on 03/22/2006 6:45:07 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Realism
Conservation hurts no one,

When I have to conserve and China sells Beanie Babies made by slave labor and uses the profits to buy the weapons to kill me, that hurts.

45 posted on 03/22/2006 6:47:29 AM PST by Mike Darancette (In the Land of the Blind the one-eyed man is king.)
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To: antisocial

The website itself is pitiful. You should send them money.

The title says it all. They are promoting junk science.


46 posted on 03/22/2006 6:47:39 AM PST by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (God is such a good idea that if He didn't exist we would have to invent Him)
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To: Realism

Gosh, sorry about your low level of reading comprehension. Perhaps you should go back and actually look at the words to which you responded before you show us all how littel you pay attention to what is on your screen.

Perhaps looking at the link will be a good idea as well.


47 posted on 03/22/2006 6:48:49 AM PST by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (God is such a good idea that if He didn't exist we would have to invent Him)
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To: Born Conservative

In general, those compact fluorescent bulbs are fine, but they take about a minute to come up to full brightness, and some of them interfere with AM radio reception.


48 posted on 03/22/2006 6:49:21 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Democrats are guilty of whatever they scream the loudest about.)
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To: burzum

I am with you on probabilities. But you are going to have to actually dispute the facts that I presented and do so with some solid evidence (As I did) in order for me to begin to consider that they are not hard facts.


49 posted on 03/22/2006 6:51:29 AM PST by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (God is such a good idea that if He didn't exist we would have to invent Him)
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To: Publius6961

Which facts do you dispute? Come and tell me what I wrote that is not true or for which you have alternative facts?


50 posted on 03/22/2006 6:52:14 AM PST by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (God is such a good idea that if He didn't exist we would have to invent Him)
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To: tlb

I have nothing against long life compact fluorescent bulbs; I have them throughtout my house. The issue I have is that the teacher is brainwashing his students into thinking that by using these bulbs, they will "fix" the "problem" of global warming.

The earth has been in existence for a long time, yet we have only been keeping records of temperature data for a little over 100 years. There is NO proof that burning fuel causes the earth's temp to rise, yet that is what the kids are being taught.


51 posted on 03/22/2006 6:52:36 AM PST by Born Conservative (Chronic Positivity - http://jsher.livejournal.com/)
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To: Nathan Zachary
"I've only had one burn out in 4 years. I guess it depends on the brand?"

Possibly. I'd sure like to find one that DOES live up to the advertised lifetimes. I've got'em installed (even in my personal reading lamp), and they're OK "color"-wise, but the ones I buy at Ace Hardware don't last to match their rep.

Anyone seen a "Consumers Reports" on compact fluorescents??

For places where I REALLY need long bulb life (outdoor lights in somewhat inaccessible spots), I buy the 20,000 hour incandescents--which DO last up to their reps.

52 posted on 03/22/2006 6:52:41 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

LOL! Can't win for loosing, huh? They get you either way.
All I know is from my personal experience using them, I have saved over $2000 in electric costs over 4 years, and have never had to change a bulb except one since I put them in, whereas it seemed I was always changing lightbulbs before, especially that bathroom light where you go to turn it on in the morning and Bink! You're peeing in the dark. Never again.

So, for the $180 or so it cost to change most of the incadescent bulbs over, it was well worth it.


53 posted on 03/22/2006 6:54:59 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: SlowBoat407
The wavelength of the fluorescent light can be irritating and cause crankiness. Do you happen to have one on now?

So you are telling me that it "has been proven" that the wavelengths of fluorescent bulbs cause "moodyness" and I am suppoed to believe it.

But, if presented with science on which there is near total agreement and frequently repeated, measureable outcomes to prove it, that is "junk"? Come on now.

PS No, there is not a fluorescent bulb on at the moment I have a window and it is sunny.

54 posted on 03/22/2006 6:55:02 AM PST by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (God is such a good idea that if He didn't exist we would have to invent Him)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit; Mygirlsmom; Graybeard58
In January on the US East Coast the temperature was 8 degrees Fahrenheit warmer than the mean. In February it was 7 degrees colder. The overall trend was 2 degrees warmer.

Two months do not prove anything climate wise. You also forgot November and December, which were really cold and so far this March has been nothing to write home about.

CO2 is not the only greenhouse gas, it's third on the list of strongest greenhouse gases behind water vapor (first) and methane (second). I've got some of the *global warming* in my driveway, too.

55 posted on 03/22/2006 6:56:21 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
That the concentration of CO2 is higher than it has been for at least 900,000 years is fact.

Not so fast. Check this out.

BTW, do you ever stray from liberal talking points? It seems like every thread I see you on you are pushing their agenda.

56 posted on 03/22/2006 6:58:48 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (The Stations of the Cross in Poetry ---> http://www.wayoftears.com)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

Global warming? On the first day of spring (2 days ago), the temperature in Pennsylvania was below freezing. So much for global WARMING....


57 posted on 03/22/2006 6:58:49 AM PST by Born Conservative (Chronic Positivity - http://jsher.livejournal.com/)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
Gosh, sorry about your low level of reading comprehension.

Yeah, yeah, I see it.... Just go back over your historic data for global / regional climate changes and compare it to human industrialization.

58 posted on 03/22/2006 7:00:07 AM PST by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Regardless of the impact on the environment it seems to be the correct thing to do for our personal economies and to help the country move towards energy independence.


59 posted on 03/22/2006 7:01:21 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (The Stations of the Cross in Poetry ---> http://www.wayoftears.com)
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To: Born Conservative

The temperature and CO2 records that are being kept from the station in Hawaii which are the basis for all this CO2 global warming connection have only been kept since 1958.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauna_Loa_Observatory

Not long enough to make any significant correlations.


60 posted on 03/22/2006 7:05:18 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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