Answer: Liberals
Waco, TX under Bill Clinton.
Posted on 03/22/2006 4:42:00 AM PST by fanfan
THE OTTAWA Police Firearms Task Force yesterday swooped down on a Navan Rd. homeowner suspected of having a cache of illegal weapons, shot him and his dog with a Taser and left without finding any weapons.
Yvon Richer says he was returning from an early-morning snowmobile ride on his 50-acre property in the city's southeast end at around 9:15 a.m. when a vehicle pulled into the driveway and a voice behind him screamed, "Get on the ground!"
He looked back at a police officer with his weapon drawn and as many as 40 others, some of them in tactical gear, lining the street.
'RELIABLE TIP'
They blocked off Navan Rd. between Mer Bleu and Renaud roads after receiving a "reliable tip" that the 60-year-old electrician, father and grandfather had a cache of weapons, and possibly dynamite stored in his 125-year-old farmhouse.
Richer was fumbling in his thick snowmobiling jacket for his keys to open the door when he was struck by a Taser dart. Shot twice, he has four puncture wounds and numerous bloody scratches to his face.
As the high-voltage charge zapped through his body, he was forced onto his belly on the wet gravel driveway. He felt a knee in his back and a foot on his head holding him down as a third officer cuffed him and emptied his pockets.
Two officers dragged him to the edge of the road where he was forced to his knees and told to rest his head on the bumper of a vehicle.
"I felt like crying. I was raised with the people around here," he said, of the spectacle which was witnessed by neighbours he's known for years. "Who has the power to do that?"
At one point, Richer said he was asked if he had dynamite or guns and whether his brother or neighbours had weapons. Paramedics removed two of the darts -- the others had been removed by police -- and offered to transport Richer, who was complaining of numbness in the arms, to hospital.
The rundown home which he calls "his shack" has been in the family for three generations but is being sold to corporate interests which plan to tear it down.
Inside is evidence of a police search. The cupboard doors have been removed, the couch cushions are flipped over and he admits his marijuana plants are gone.
ORDEAL ENDED ABRUPTLY
Richer said the entire ordeal ended as abruptly as it began.
"Nobody said anything. They dropped me off and they were gone," he said.
It wasn't until later in the day that he even realized his 12-year-old German shepherd, Sheba, had also been tasered.
According to police the dog had "converged" on the officers. Staff Sgt. Mike Laviolette said officers fired on the man when he failed to comply with their instructions.
"He didn't come at them or anything but he didn't do what he was supposed to do which was he was trying to get back in the house," said Laviolette. He said the Taser "wasn't even a direct hit" as Richer "was wearing clothing and it didn't immobilize him completely."
Laviolette said a warrant was obtained by the task force, set up in early January to oversee the gun amnesty program and the Gun Crime Stoppers hotline.
He wouldn't say whether police were also looking for dynamite but noted a quantity of drugs was found on scene. Police continue to investigate and it's not clear whether any drug-related charges will be laid.
Richer said he's exploring legal action against the police.
For example, if the information is that the suspect is armed and dangerous, even if it turns out later that he really wasn't, the police going in MUST treat the arrest as though he is. They can't afford to be second guessing on how good the tip was when they're in the process.
In this case, the cops on the ground going in had information that the guy had illegal weapons and possibly explosives. With that as a given, I thought they acted appropriately.
So you're saying that if you get hit in the forehead with a .22, it won't kill you because it was fired by a 65-year-old woman?
I'm a nice guy to people who don't put words in my mouth to distort the point I'm making.
.....and if you don't let me help...I have the power to kill you!
What is even worse is the cops going after people with parking tickets with Pepperspray, tasers, and flash bang grenades.
I wasn't trying to put words in your mouth, I was asking you a question about your statement, which you have clarified in post #41.
I am not here to fight, but to learn.
After looking at your home page, I am tempted to think we are not here for the same purpose.
Good Afternoon.
In most cases, they would hold him until the prelimenary hearing, where a judge would have to set bail. He is lucky in this aspect. He is also lucky to only have been tased, and not Tased, pepperballed, and bean-baged to death.
Bean-bagged?
LOL!
Bean bag bullets from shotgun shells.
Oh.
Thank you.
I have no use for slash and burn Reno, but I don't think she trained any Ontario cops.
Because farms never have any tree stumps, you know.
From: Ed Chenel, A police officer in Australia
>
> Hi Yanks, I thought you all would like to see the real figures
> from Down Under. It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia
> were forced by a new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be
> destroyed by our own government, a program costing Australia
> taxpayers more than $500 million dollars.
>
> The first year results are now in: Australia-wide, homicides
> are up 6.2 percent, Australia-wide, assaults are up 9.6 percent ;
> Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)!
> In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up
> 300 percent. (Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in,
> the criminals did not! and criminals still possess their guns!)
>
> While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in
> armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in
> the past 12 months, since the criminals now are guaranteed that
> their prey is unarmed. There has also been a dramatic increase in
> break-ins and assaults of the elderly, while the resident is at home.
>
> Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has
> decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was expended in
> "successfully ridding Australian society of guns." You won't see this on
> the American evening news or hear your governor or members of the
> State Assembly disseminating this information.
>
> The Australian experience speaks for itself. Guns in the hands of honest
> citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws affect only
> the law-abiding citizens.
>
> Take note Americans, before it's too late!
>
> FORWARD TO EVERYONE ON YOUR EMAIL LIST. [I DID ]
> DON'T BE A MEMBER OF THE SILENT MAJORITY.
> BE ONE OF THE VOCAL MINORITY WHO WON'T LET THIS HAPPEN IN THE U.S.A
Don't be stupid. They should have backed off and given her a little time. Don't be so authoritarian and bloodthirsty.
Nothing here indicates a crime of any kind
This is Canada, and it is a crime here to possess an unregistered gun, but other than the tip, which was incorrect, they had no reason to pull this stuff on him.
I wasn't actually suggesting that- just a bit of humor, considering how the ATF under her leadership acted in much the same way!
Also, if we had found WMDs some would claim that we planted them.
There is really no scenario under which evidence could have been found that all opponents of the war would agree made the invasion justifiable.
Also, if we had found WMDs some would claim that we planted them.
There is really no scenario under which evidence could have been found that all opponents of the war would agree made the invasion justifiable.
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