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The Great (and Continuing) Economic Debate of the 20th Century
Imprimis/Hillsdale College ^ | March 2006 | Steve Forbes

Posted on 03/21/2006 11:37:40 PM PST by Nasty McPhilthy

The great economic debate of the twentieth century was between collectivists and free-marketers. In one sense, the free-marketers won: When the Berlin Wall fell in 1989, it was widely acknowledged that Soviet socialism had been a catastrophic, not to say murderous, failure. But in another sense, the debate continues. Democratic capitalism still has not vanquished the idea of collectivism. Far from it.

At the beginning of the last century, free markets seemed to be on the ascendancy everywhere. But two events gave collectivism its lease on life. The first was World War I. In addition to the slaughter—and to breeding the ideologies of communism, state fascism, Nazism, and even the Islamic fascism we are battling today—World War I served as an intoxicating drug to those in the West who believed that a handful of people in government could manage affairs better than the messy way in which free peoples tend to do so. Massive increases in government powers, coupled with massive increases in taxation, gave many the idea that you can achieve massive increases in production by commandeering the financial resources of society.

The second event that served as a boon to collectivism was the Great Depression, which was widely seen as a free-market failure. This view was false. Misguided government policies were at fault—the Smoot-Hawley Tariff, for instance, which dried up the flow of capital in and out of the country. If you track the stock market crash of 1929, it parallels the course of this tariff bill through Congress. When Smoot-Hawley arose in the fall of 1929, the markets fell; when it looked like the tariff bill was sidetracked in late 1929, the markets revived (the Dow Jones went up 50 percent from its lows in November); in the spring of 1930 it was signed into law, and the rest is history. There were other factors at work in the Great Depression, of course, such as President Hoover’s gigantic tax increases of 1931. But despite the fact that these also involved bad policies, the lesson taken away by many was that economies will implode unless the government manages them. John Maynard Keynes, the intellectual guiding light behind New Deal economics, believed that an economy was like a machine: If you put doses of money into it or pull money out at the right times, he thought, you can achieve an equilibrium. This idea that government can drive an economy as if it were an automobile has had baleful consequences.

Other leading economists at the time, such as Joseph Schumpeter, recognized that an economy is an aggregate of disparate activities—thus that the idea of achieving equilibrium, while it makes for a neat theory, is nonsense in the real world. A vibrant economy is full of constant disequilibria: New enterprises rise up, old ones decline, etc. Snapshots of such economies mean very little. In the real world, therefore, free markets operate rationally and efficiently in a way that government regulators simply can’t. Here in America we came to this realization at the end of the 1970s. Following World War II, we largely bought into the idea that government must play an active role to prevent the economy from going off the cliff. But in the late 1970s, the devastation of inflation and high taxes brought about a reassessment. With the election of Ronald Reagan, the U.S. took a step back from Keynesian economics. Since then, as Western Europe has stagnated—creating, for instance, only a fraction of the private sector jobs that the U.S. has created—our country has undergone an economic revival.

Nonetheless, democratic capitalism often still seems on the defensive. Why?

Is Democratic Capitalism Good?

One of the great vulnerabilities of capitalism is the perception that it is somehow less than moral, if not positively amoral. A common view of business was depicted in the movie Wall Street, in which Michael Douglas’s character made famous the phrase, “Greed is good.” Capitalism is widely seen as promoting selfishness. We tolerate it because it gives us jobs and prosperity, but many look on this as a Faustian bargain. Charity and capitalism are seen as polar opposites. Thus there’s a phrase that’s often used today—I myself use it from time to time without thinking—which is “giving back.” If you’ve succeeded in business, it’s counted a good thing if you “give back” to the community. And charity is, of course, a good thing. The problem with this phrase is its implication that by succeeding, we have taken something that wasn’t ours. The same idea is summed up in the cynical saying, “Behind every great fortune lies a great crime.” This way of thinking about democratic capitalism is wrong.

In fact, philanthropy and capitalism are two sides of the same coin. To succeed in business in a free-market economy, one must meet the needs and wants of others. Even someone who makes babies cry is not going to succeed unless he or she provides a product or a service that people want. This system weaves intricate webs of cooperation that we don’t even think about. Take a restaurant: Someone who opens a restaurant assumes that farmers will provide the food and that someone else will process and package it and that someone else will deliver it, having been supplied the fuel to do so by yet someone else, etc. These marvelous webs of cooperation happen every day throughout a free economy. No one is commanding it. It occurs spontaneously in a way that economists like Schumpeter understood.

Free markets also force people to look to the future and take risks. Misers do not found companies like Microsoft. Nor should we look on it as immoral for people to work for the betterment of themselves and their families. We are all born with God-given talents, and it is right to develop them to the fullest. The great virtue of democratic capitalism is that it guarantees that as we develop our talents, we’re contributing to the public good. Statistics show that the U.S. is both the most commercial nation and the most philanthropic nation in human history. And this is no paradox. The two go hand-in-hand.

Another vulnerability of democratic capitalism is that although it leads to progress and to an increase in our societal standard of living, progress is usually disruptive. This allows collectivists to play on people’s natural fear of change. We saw this with the rise of industrialism in the 19th century. We had paintings and writings depicting a pastoral agricultural past. Then railroads came along to disrupt the canals, and cars came along to disrupt the railroads. Buggy-whip makers and blacksmiths were done for. One can imagine what 60 Minutes would have been investigating 100 years ago: the poor blacksmiths being put out of work by Henry Ford. Likewise, when TV came along in the late 1940s and early 1950s, most movie theaters in the country went broke. Now the Internet is disrupting newspapers and Craig’s List is disrupting classified advertising. Disruptions are inevitable in a free-market system. The political challenge is to allow these disruptions to take place—they are ultimately constructive, after all—rather than reacting in a way that stymies progress.

In recent decades, collectivists have also hijacked the cause of environmentalism to promote their agenda. I’m not talking about the desire to have clean water; we’re all in favor of that. Or clean air; one of the great things we’ve done in the last century is getting lead out of the air. Saving tigers and elephants is also a good thing. I’m talking about those who use the mantra of environmentalism to try to control the economy the way the old-time socialists wanted to, breathing hellfire and damnation on those who don’t subscribe to their new, post-Christian religion. The fact is, if our goal is to improve the environment, increasing government regulation and destroying manufacturing is counterproductive. Affluence is the friend, not the enemy, of the environment. As people become better off, they want a higher quality of life, including environmental improvements. And new technology drives such improvements. Consider the east coast of the U.S. Even though its population has more than doubled—in some areas, it’s tripled—and even though there are more developments, malls, and urban sprawl, there are more trees today than there were 80 years ago. Why? Because of technology that allows us to grow more food on less land. Technology is a friend of the environment.

Additional Collectivist Myths

Let me mention three additional myths that are used to promote collectivism. One is the idea that demand is the key to economic growth. Collectivist economists often talk about means to increase “aggregate demand,” as if that would ensure that the economy will grow. Following Keynes, they assume that the economy is like a machine. But again, the economy is an aggregate of tens of millions of people, millions of businesses, millions of technologies. We don’t know how it interacts on a day-to-day basis. We don’t know what’s going to work or not work. Who could have conceived of eBay ten to twelve years ago? But today, 400,000 people make their livings on eBay. When Google was launched, there were ten other search engines. Who would have thought another one was needed? Isn’t that how you get so-called “bubbles”? But Google found a way to do it better and ended up on top. Innovation is the key. Whether it’s railroads, cars, computers, the Internet, or iPods, risk-taking is messy. It is often irrational, and seemingly wasteful. But it’s the only way to determine what works best and what doesn’t.

Another collectivist myth concerns trade. If I were dictator of the world—even though I believe in the First Amendment—I would ban trade numbers, especially merchandise trade numbers. They just lead to mischief. We are given the impression that a trade surplus is like a profit and a trade deficit is like a loss. But trade is not a transaction between countries. It takes place between parties. For example, Forbes magazine buys paper. For all of the 88 years that we’ve been in existence, we’ve run a trade deficit with our paper suppliers. If you look just at that trade deficit, you might think we are doing poorly. But if you look at the two parties involved, that turns out to be an illusion. The paper supplier thinks he’s going to make money selling his paper. We think we’re going to make money by taking the paper and putting print on it, with value added. So it’s a mutually profitable transaction, even if it looks like a trade deficit. Or consider a book printed in Taiwan. Looking at the trade number alone, it appears there is a two dollar trade deficit with Taiwan. Yet the book comes back here and retails for $24.95. The value added is in the U.S. The author gets a cut, the publisher gets a cut, booksellers get a cut, distributors get a cut, and remainder stores get a cut. Something similar happened with iPods: A lot of its parts are made overseas, but where is most of the value added? Here in the United States. North America has had a merchandise trade deficit for 350 out of the last 400 years, and we have done very well, thank you.

The final myth I’ll mention concerns budget deficits. Milton Friedman said several years ago that if he had a choice between a federal budget of $1 trillion that was in the red and a federal budget of $2 trillion that was balanced, he would take the former. Deficits, in and of themselves, are not evil. Deficits must be put in context, because Washington’s inability to curb spending is often used as an excuse to raise taxes.

Principles of Prosperity

Now let me turn to five basic principles of economic growth. First and foremost is the rule of law: Without individual equality before the law, entrepreneurs cannot challenge already existing businesses. Alliances between the latter and government regulators who place barriers before entrepreneurs must be guarded against.

The second essential principle is property rights. We take it for granted in this country that if you buy a piece of property, everyone acknowledges that you own it. Most countries don’t have that kind of uniform property system. A few years ago, Hernando DeSoto, a great economist from Peru, saw that in countries like his, although there is entrepreneurial activity, there isn’t the corresponding prosperity found in the U.S. And he wondered why. In his recent book—The Mystery of Capital: Why Capitalism Triumphs in the West and Fails Everywhere Else—one of the key factors he cites is the absence in so many other countries of a legal foundation for property rights. In Brazil’s shanty towns, an individual may know that he owns the house in which he lives, and his neighbors may know it, but the fact is not recognized elsewhere.

Mr. DeSoto was asked by the Egyptian government a few years ago to determine who owns the businesses and residences in Egypt. His finding was that 88 percent of the businesses in Egypt are illegal. Why is that? Here in the U.S., it is possible to set up a business legally in a matter of days. In Egypt, it takes a couple of years. It requires going through numerous bureaucracies, doling out numerous bribes, etc. So it makes sense to proceed “informally.” On the other hand, running a business outside the law limits its growth. Most “informal” enterprises never grow beyond the level of family enterprises, because if they get too big, they might attract the attention of the tax collector. DeSoto’s group also reported that 92 percent of Egyptian housing is illegal. People living in residences may have deeds; but only a few miles away, those deeds are not recognized. In Egypt, as in so many other places, there is no uniform system of establishing and protecting property rights. As a result, four billion people around the world own $9 trillion of assets that amount to dead capital.

What do I mean by “dead capital”? Remember that here in the U.S., the most important source of capital for new ventures is not Wall Street, the local banker or the venture capitalist. It is the mortgage market. People either increase their mortgage or take out a second mortgage in order to start businesses. This is not possible in countries like Egypt. Understanding this was the key to Japan’s post-World War II economic boom. General MacArthur reformed a feudalistic property system, in which the peasants had only an informal system of property exchange, into a system with formalized property rights. Immediately, the Japanese economy took off. The importance of property rights is not sufficiently recognized by those of us who take them for granted.

The third principle of economic prosperity is low taxes. Taxes are not just a means of raising revenue for the government. They are also a price. Income taxes are a price paid for working; taxes on profits are the price paid for being successful in business; taxes on capital gains are the price paid for taking risks. In light of this, the importance of low taxes is easy to see: When you lower the price of good things—things like work, success and risk-taking—you tend to get more of them. Raise the price of these good things and you get less. In 2003, we lowered tax rates in the U.S. and the economy started to grow again. As we’ve seen time and again, tax cuts do not mean a loss of tax revenue. By increasing incentives, the government comes out ahead. Washington’s revenues in the last fiscal year were up 15 percent—$100 billion above expectations. Washington’s problem is not revenue, but spending.

The fourth principle I would mention is making it simpler to launch legal businesses. Getting bureaucracy out of the way will inject a new vibrancy into the economy. The fifth and final principle is free trade. Expanding markets and creating greater opportunity for trade benefits us all.

In closing, I will remind you of a point I made earlier: The reason that the great economic debate continues into the 21st century, despite the proven superiority of free markets in terms of delivering prosperity, is because of the misperceptions that keep democratic capitalism from capturing the moral high ground. Dispelling these misperceptions should be our priority as we carry on that debate in the years ahead.

"Reprinted by permission from IMPRIMIS, the national speech digest of Hillsdale College, www.hillsdale.edu."


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: capitalism; collectivism; economics; forbes; friedman; hayek; liberalism; mises; steveforbes
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To: CowboyJay
As opposed to 100%.

You want corporate taxes to be 100%?

161 posted on 03/22/2006 9:24:45 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: CowboyJay

I'm not an MBA type, but I like business history. Corporations have limited life spans for one reason or another. Sometimes they morph into other companies, like Chrysler, and sometimes they kind of fall apart, like ITT (a corporate giant in the 1950s and 1960s). Railroads were once powerful corporation in America.

So, probably not. They don't live forever like the robot in Terminator.


162 posted on 03/22/2006 9:28:19 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: durasell
"Yep. The Chinese will reverse engineer the earth movers and gain a price advantage. Jim will have to whip his R&D guys into a frenzy to design a new earth mover to gain a technical advantage, which the Chinese will then reverse engineer,which will then send Jim back to the R&D guys etc.etc. etc. Progress."

Mmmm... If form holds from the automotive industry, Jim's R&D team will not be able to keep up fast enough. They'll be put out of business, or purchased by a foreign entity who will either re-employ Jim's staff for a pittance, or lay them off outright. The Chinese gain further advantage, and are better able to advance their form of socialist totalitarianism (across our borders, if we don't wise-up).

Money is power. Technology is as well.

Not looking for a flounder in a tree, at all. I'd just rather put down a rabid dog than have myself or family bit. I personally consider America my extended family. Probably a bit sappy, but that's just me. Old Yeller's death was sad, but it had to be done for the safety of the family, and indeed for the good of the pooch itself.

Unfortunately 'Old Yeller' in this case weighs something on the order of 800lbs, and we've nothing to assault it with but sling-shots and ambition. This last row over the DPW deal has obviously gotten his attention (not in a good way). We'll just have to keep reloading until the beast falls. The other option isn't pretty.

163 posted on 03/22/2006 9:47:10 PM PST by CowboyJay (Rough Riders! Tancredo '08)
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To: CowboyJay
You're the one being ridiculous...in the extreme! Tobacco is NOT "lethal"!

And since you neglected to bother with anything else I posted, I can only surmise that you can't.

164 posted on 03/22/2006 9:51:12 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Toddsterpatriot

"You want corporate taxes to be 100%?"

Heavens no!

I misunderstood your 40% number if that was taxes rather than the percentage of net-profit that actually stayed in-country.


165 posted on 03/22/2006 9:54:17 PM PST by CowboyJay (Rough Riders! Tancredo '08)
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To: CowboyJay

No doubt you are an American who considers himself both a good citizen and patriotic. I consider myself the same. I believe this is something to be admired. However, I don't hold corporations to the same standards as I hold people.

China is set to offer its first car in the U.S. Probably within the next year or so. We'll see how that goes.


166 posted on 03/22/2006 9:54:34 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: CowboyJay
And just WHAT do day traders have to do with your entire position? Are you now claiming that they 1) run the corporations 2) are a "problem" 3) are responsible for corporate "corruption" 4) something else?

Are you aware that "day traders" don't always buy and sell financial instruments the same day?

No, if you are "one little guy", you have NO say in how corporations are run, nor in the day to day operations of any company/corporation!

167 posted on 03/22/2006 9:58:04 PM PST by nopardons
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To: evilC

Thanks for the suggestion; it sounds like a good book! :-)


168 posted on 03/22/2006 9:59:19 PM PST by nopardons
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To: durasell
I've both of Mayhew's books and both are wonderful reads.

Charles Dickens used Mayhew's books, to help flesh out many of his characters ( especially in OLIVER TWIST )and to add verisimilitude to his underworld types.

169 posted on 03/22/2006 10:04:59 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
"You're the one being ridiculous...in the extreme! Tobacco is NOT "lethal"!"

Please explain that to my paternal Grandfather. He's dead. Died from lung cancer brought-on by smoking tobacco (onset was 5 years after he'd quit in 1972). Ripe old age of 55, he was. Family history of cancer? Nope. Did he commit suicide, or was he poisoned? You make the call...

Philip Morris execs publicly insisting that there were no health hazards involved in smoking tobacco up until the late '70's. (As of 1961, they already had strong scientific evidence that tar was a carcinogen). Tobacco was even readily available to children in retail outlets at that point in time.

No different than if they'd served him a strychnine-tainted cocktail, and assured him it was safe. It wasn't 100% sure to kill him, but it did.

170 posted on 03/22/2006 10:42:21 PM PST by CowboyJay (Rough Riders! Tancredo '08)
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To: CowboyJay
Codswallop and bushwah!

Not all smokers die from smoking and most assuredly, not all smokers get lung cancer.

Belated condolences on the death of your grandfather, but please don't use his death, for refutation.

171 posted on 03/22/2006 11:18:28 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

"Not all smokers die from smoking"

Ah... but a good many do. I really haven't much sypmpathy for those nowadays. It's widely known and publicly admitted by the Tobacco Industry. It wasn't back then.


172 posted on 03/23/2006 12:18:36 AM PST by CowboyJay (Rough Riders! Tancredo '08)
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To: CowboyJay
BLASPHEMY!

Don't you know that Nuevo Free Trade-ism requires that everyone worship the dogma that, among other things, requires its adherents to believe and chant:

  1. Economic systems function entirely independently of political systems.
  2. People in any particular free society will happily vote themselves and their families into a third-world mud-hut standard of living, if only they could recognize how great it will be for them.

173 posted on 03/23/2006 12:34:31 AM PST by meadsjn
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To: CowboyJay
No, actually MOST smokers do NOT die from smoking or smoking related diseases.

It was WIDELY known, MORE THAN THREE HUNDRED YEARS AGO that smoking tobacco was "harmful". I suggest that YOU need to do a lot more reading about historical things. :-)

You really are quite out of your depth here.

174 posted on 03/23/2006 12:38:58 AM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
It was WIDELY known, MORE THAN THREE HUNDRED YEARS AGO that smoking tobacco was "harmful". I suggest that YOU need to do a lot more reading about historical things. :-)

300 years ago they didn't even know about germ theory. People were given mercury as a drug and died as a result of mercury poisoning. Amputation and bleeding were common. There was no CDC, no epidemiological studies, and no real understanding of what cancer, emphysema, etc were.
175 posted on 03/23/2006 12:45:00 AM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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To: CowboyJay
The current situation only worries me in that I am a nationalist, and as such, would prefer to see American Peters and Pauls stay firmly ahead of those in other nations (mutual survival and prosperity qualifies as a worthy goal in my book). I'm also rather fond of our form of governance that allows us to play the Peter-Paul game in a delightful and entertaining fashion.

Now we approach the crux of the matter. Whether it is removing the shield from liability of shareholders, or banning the manufacture of "ephedrinates," you are suggesting a course of action that requires a greater level of collectivism1. Yet in your mind, "The modern multi-national corporation is a form of collectivism." [emphasis added]

Personally, I am curious to see what word you would use to describe the method of achieving the outcome you seek. Steve Forbes' distinction between "collectivists" and "free-marketers" is central to his essay, and he probably couldn't imagine anyone who would disagree with his terminology. He would be astounded to discover that, according to you, he got it completely backward: the free-marketers are the collectivists.

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1col·lec·tiv·ism
Function: noun
: a political or economic theory advocating collective control especially over production and distribution; also : a system marked by such control

176 posted on 03/23/2006 5:09:11 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: CowboyJay; hedgetrimmer; Toddsterpatriot
U.S. corporations pay roughly 38% tax to the U.S. Treasury on their world-wide income.

That's right, you heard it correctly, our government gets a cut of that U.S. ping-pong ball plant in Shanghai. There are any number of ways to limit that tax liability, but not eliminate it. I can explain how, for a fee.

177 posted on 03/23/2006 5:19:12 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Nasty McPhilthy; Yardstick; Lando Lincoln; quidnunc; .cnI redruM; Valin; King Prout; SJackson; ...

Steve Forbes absolutely Nailed It!

This ping list is not author-specific for articles I'd like to share. Some for the perfect moral clarity, some for provocative thoughts; or simply interesting articles I'd hate to miss myself. (I don't have to agree with the author all 100% to feel the need to share an article.) I will try not to abuse the ping list and not to annoy you too much, but on some days there is more of the good stuff that is worthy of attention. You can see the list of articles I pinged to lately  on  my page.
You are welcome in or out, just freepmail me (and note which PING list you are talking about). Besides this one, I keep 2 separate PING lists for my favorite authors Victor Davis Hanson and Orson Scott Card.  

178 posted on 03/23/2006 5:20:57 AM PST by Tolik
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To: Mase
I think Toddsterpatriot brought-up an excellent point. Are we to hold Enron employees (say, the receptionists) liable for the criminal activity of their bosses? They were foolish enough to participate in the ESOP, after all.
179 posted on 03/23/2006 5:25:03 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: DB

I did too. I agree, he would have made a fine President.


180 posted on 03/23/2006 5:36:33 AM PST by Tolik
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