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Illinois Governor - GOP Primary Election Thread
Open Thread ^ | 3-21-06 | TitansAFC

Posted on 03/21/2006 2:33:54 PM PST by TitansAFC

This is an open thread for Illinois Freepers to talk about the GOP Primary Election today. Can Judy Baar Topinka be stopped?!?!?

Stay tuned!


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
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Okay, it's the moment of truth!

Can Judy Baar be beaten today?

Will enough voters pull the lever for Oberweis to stop the madness?

Will Bill Brady put Judy Baar Topinka on the ticket by bleeding enough Conservative support from Jim Oberweis to make it happen? Will Bill Brady defy history, logic, the polls, and state demographics and actually produce this invisible avalanche of last-minute, overwhelming support to leapfrog three primary opponents in the closing days? Will the combined votes of Brady and Oberweis be more than Topinka anyway?

If Oberweis loses, will he stop running after three unsuccessful tries? Is his ambition/ego too big to quit running?

If Brady succeeds in doing what it look like he'll do and put Topinka on the ticket, will his supporters feel any regret? Will Bill Brady stop his own ambitions if he cripples the Illinois Conservative movement by putting Topinka on the ballot? Or will he try and use this race as a stepping stone (a la Oberweis) for the 2008 Senate race, in the hopes that everyone will instantly forgive him for burying any chance of Conservative progress in Illinois?

Will we ever hear from Ron Gidwitz again?

If Oberweis flops, will his supporters finally admit him to be unelectable?

If Brady flops, will his supporters finally admit he's done more harm than good in this race, and that the mythical/invisible 30% support he's been trying to sell everybody on (no, it's really there, honest!) was a load of crap engineered by his campaign to make him look like a contender whan he wasn't?

More than anything else, can the IL GOP survive a Judy Baar Topinka ticket in 2008? Is there any hope of progress for the Conservative movement in Illinois if she wins the Governorship?

Let 'er rip, Illinois Freepers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

1 posted on 03/21/2006 2:33:59 PM PST by TitansAFC
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To: TitansAFC

By the way, for the record:

I cast my vote for Jim Oberweis and Sandy Wegman today.

I encourage all others to do the same!

Stop Topinka!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


2 posted on 03/21/2006 2:34:45 PM PST by TitansAFC ("'C' is for 'cookie,' that's good enough for me" -- C. Monster)
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To: TitansAFC

Well, I did my part for Oberweis. Illinois sure is screwed up, isn't it?


3 posted on 03/21/2006 2:36:20 PM PST by Lando Lincoln (God bless Jared Linskens and his family.)
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To: TitansAFC
LOL.

You make it sound like an episode of Batman.

4 posted on 03/21/2006 2:36:30 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: TitansAFC

From what I know and have read of Jim Oberweis, it seems as though he'd make a good Governor. Maybe some other Freepers out there beg to differ.

But I think he needs to start out in Congress. I'm not sure what district he lives in but it seems as though he could easily self-finance a race for the House.

In Congress, he can gain additional name ID (although the Oberweis name is well known now) and expertise in the public sector.


5 posted on 03/21/2006 2:37:32 PM PST by MplsSteve
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To: MplsSteve

Oberweis lives in Denny Hastert's district. I could see him running to replace Hastert when he retires.


6 posted on 03/21/2006 2:39:09 PM PST by Kuksool
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To: TitansAFC

Central Illinois was hit hard last night by the weather...my hubby is an election judge and said it is really slow....one bit of good news...12 demorats asked for Repub ballots...maybe they are fed up with Blago....


7 posted on 03/21/2006 2:39:09 PM PST by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: TitansAFC
I couldn't hold my nose and mark the ballot at the same time.
so i declared nonpartisan and only voted against a local referendum.
8 posted on 03/21/2006 2:39:14 PM PST by stylin19a (Do you still have sex or are you already playing golf?)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

Holy Liberal Calamity Broham!


9 posted on 03/21/2006 2:43:24 PM PST by Once-Ler (Principled conservatives don't vote for $trillion budgets and blame Dubya for signing them.)
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To: mystery-ak
---"12 Democrats asked for Repub ballots...maybe they are fed up with Blago...."---

That's exactly what I was worried about. Many of the unions endorsed Judy Baar Topinka in their frustration with Blagojevich. The crossover vote may cinch her victory.
10 posted on 03/21/2006 2:45:29 PM PST by TitansAFC ("'C' is for 'cookie,' that's good enough for me" -- C. Monster)
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To: TitansAFC
"More than anything else, can the IL GOP survive a Judy Baar Topinka ticket in 2008? Is there any hope of progress for the Conservative movement in Illinois if she wins the Governorship?"
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Even if she gets the nomination she won't beat Blagoivich.

We are going to suffer the Ryan legacy for a long time. I'll never forget him not signing the pro-life bill after he campaigned he would.

Back to the present: The IL. GOP needs a complete flushing out of the old guard. It's going to take a while.
11 posted on 03/21/2006 2:45:38 PM PST by wmfights (Lead, Follow, or Get Out Of The WAY!)
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To: mystery-ak

You're right. I was surfing thru some on-line newspapers in Illinois and it sounds like turn-out is down in the southern part of the state.

Who do you think it hurts more? I'm inclined to say it hurts Oberweis.

If I'm correct, Topinka will do fine in the collar counties and Brady is from northern Illinois where he has his base of support.


12 posted on 03/21/2006 2:46:48 PM PST by MplsSteve
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To: mystery-ak
up here in Peoria,the snow stopped and the warm temps.melted snow off of cars.

So turnout shouldn't suffer around here anyway.

13 posted on 03/21/2006 2:47:05 PM PST by Cheapskate (America , -- -- -- -- Yeah!)
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To: wmfights

---"Even if she gets the nomination she won't beat Blagoivich."---

I disagree. Pretty much every souce I hear says that she will ultimately win the Governor's race pretty easily if she's on the ticket.

Blago's approval is 30% and sometimes below. The unions and Daley machine are on board with Judy.


14 posted on 03/21/2006 2:47:40 PM PST by TitansAFC ("'C' is for 'cookie,' that's good enough for me" -- C. Monster)
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To: MplsSteve
"From what I know and have read of Jim Oberweis, it seems as though he'd make a good Governor."
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I couldn't vote for him because I didn't know enough about his positions.
15 posted on 03/21/2006 2:48:14 PM PST by wmfights (Lead, Follow, or Get Out Of The WAY!)
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To: MplsSteve

Actually, my perception has been that Brady's been strongest to the south, because of the support of certain grassroots organizers.


16 posted on 03/21/2006 2:50:35 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Camelot began and ended with a swim...)
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To: All

I stand corrected.

Brady is from the Bloomington area.


17 posted on 03/21/2006 2:50:42 PM PST by MplsSteve
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To: TitansAFC
"Blago's approval is 30% and sometimes below. The unions and Daley machine are on board with Judy."
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You are more in touch with the political goings on then I am then. I live in the socialist republic of Chicago and everyone seems to love Blagovich.

If Topinko wins is there any real difference?
18 posted on 03/21/2006 2:53:16 PM PST by wmfights (Lead, Follow, or Get Out Of The WAY!)
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To: MplsSteve

As of 4pm..hubby has only had 72 voters....in 04 general election it was over 1000(small precent)......I don't know who is goon benefit from this, but it's not gonna help Brady who I voted for...


19 posted on 03/21/2006 2:55:06 PM PST by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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"Brady is from the Bloomington area."
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That's part of the reason I liked him. He's not from the chicagoland area and will represent more conservative southern IL. views.
20 posted on 03/21/2006 2:56:01 PM PST by wmfights (Lead, Follow, or Get Out Of The WAY!)
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