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Judge: No Deal For Teacher Who Slept With Her Student
The Indy Channel ^ | March 21, 2006 | AP

Posted on 03/21/2006 11:29:17 AM PST by Abathar

OCALA, Fla. -- A Florida judge said a plea deal for a Tampa teacher accused of having sex with a 14-year-old would "erode public confidence in" schools.

Marion County Circuit Judge Hale Stencil has rejected the plea deal for Debra Lafave, 25. The judge said the deal would undermine the credibility of the criminal justice system.

Prosecutors and the defense lawyer had urged the judge to accept the deal for the good of the boy. A psychiatrist told the judge the boy suffered extreme anxiety because of intense media coverage of the case and does not want to testify.

Lafave was charged in two counties where she's accused of having sex with the student.

A judge in Hillsborough County accepted a plea deal there in November and sentenced Lafave to three years of house arrest and seven years' probation. She pleaded guilty in November to two counts of lewd and lascivious battery for having sex with the boy in a classroom and her home.


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To: Abathar

Way to go, Judge! Plea bargaining with sex offenders must be ended.


341 posted on 03/21/2006 1:46:44 PM PST by Rebelbase (President Bush is a Texas jackass when it comes to Border security .)
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To: najida
Believe me, it's all about power for these women and men who go after these kids.

Sometimes, probably.

But with men, many, many times it's just about easily available sex with young, fit women. Not about 'power' at all.

This teacher abused her power as a teacher. Fire her, absolutetly.

But this kid is not a 'victim', any more than a crackhead is a 'victim' of a drug dealer.

342 posted on 03/21/2006 1:46:44 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: Abathar
Who could blame any 14 year old boy for not saying no to that

I'd park my bike in her garage.

343 posted on 03/21/2006 1:46:57 PM PST by beyond the sea (The definition of a 'Targeted Tax Cut' is ........................ you ain't gettin' it)
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To: peacebaby

Peace: At my age, one has to be very careful not to over sell and under deliver! Hahahaha! That's why its all about cooperation now.


344 posted on 03/21/2006 1:47:20 PM PST by anton
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To: Abathar
Who could blame any 14 year old boy for not saying no to that... DItto a million times.....A zillion times.....Not being 14 anymore, suggests My current hormone levels and subsequent marriage brings the numbers down a bit right now....
345 posted on 03/21/2006 1:47:30 PM PST by jmq (Islam=Religion of Peace)
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To: Publius6961
I think the main point of contention here is the distinction between legal definitions and the real world.

I think it's just a mistaken desire to be 'fair'. To treat boys and girls the same.

Which in the case of sex is a HUGE mistake -- in my opinion.

346 posted on 03/21/2006 1:47:56 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: dinoparty
We are in agreement. I was just pointing out that on this thread it doesn't seem to matter to the guys. In words on this thread: this kids friends think he is a hero and he is going to have fond memories. I was pointing out that what was done to him is going to have consequences for him the rest of his life. Starting with relationships with the girls in his own age group who are talking behind his back clear up to having to tell the woman he truly falls in love with down the road.

Unfortunately, yes, I would hold it against him as a dating partner. Because as the other women on this thread have pointed out..as a girl I also had the horny hormones at age 14. I certainly wasn't interested in 14 year old guys either...which is probably why guys don't think girls even fantasize at that age. But I didn't act on my hormones with any teacher. It goes back to the character thing...why did you act on it? What? You don't feel bad about it? Well, women are different from men and they don't find it attractive. If the guy had been tied down and forced to submit that would be a totally different scenario in which he would have had no control. That would put the dating thing in a different light. But no matter what the scenario was here the teacher is a pervert and should have gone to jail.

The fact the teacher has to claim some mental disorder also is telling in that she knows she got caught doing something bad.

347 posted on 03/21/2006 1:48:08 PM PST by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: Dominic Harr

Which flips around completely to where a 35 plus woman picks up steam, drive and passion well into her 50's while hubby, well, becomes rather....
boring.

Seriously darlin', you don't know the women I know :)

OK,
Off to see who's hanging out at the highschool track ;)


348 posted on 03/21/2006 1:48:16 PM PST by najida (I hate bullies- God, man or beast, it doesn't matter.)
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To: Dominic Harr

You don't think a crackhead buying crack is a victim???
Man,how many crackheads have YOU been around?They are victims and their kids,relatives and the community as a whole become THEIR victims when they are"on their mission"
They may not THINK they are victims when they are"copping some s---"but they most certainly are victims of their vicious habit.


349 posted on 03/21/2006 1:50:04 PM PST by Riverman94610
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To: Dominic Harr

Ok, from the woman's POV,
sex IS power, control etc.
and molestors, abusers, it is the case totally.

Again,
the kid is a victim simply because he was the student and she was the person in authority.

Simple as that.


350 posted on 03/21/2006 1:50:46 PM PST by najida (I hate bullies- God, man or beast, it doesn't matter.)
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To: Dominic Harr
"Many, Many, many girls/women will hold this against him."

lol... right. Just like many girls/women hold it against rock stars who bang every groupie in sight or against the football team for basically doing the same thing. This kid is a minor celebrity in his school. During his fifteen minutes of fame he will never have so much female attention again in his life. By the time people have forgotten him the girls will have forgotten that he had sex with a 25 year old teacher.
351 posted on 03/21/2006 1:50:49 PM PST by monday
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To: jmq

Hey,why not let Hollywood make a movie about this case starring Reese Witherspoon???


352 posted on 03/21/2006 1:51:24 PM PST by Riverman94610
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To: najida
Off to see who's hanging out at the highschool track ;)

Hahahahahah!

Seriously darlin', you don't know the women I know :)

If you think men lose steam, drive and passion as we age -- you don't know the *men* I know, then!

353 posted on 03/21/2006 1:53:39 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: monday
many girls/women

LOL...yeah, those are the girls/women EVERY guy dreams of marrying and having a family with. Woo Hoo!

354 posted on 03/21/2006 1:53:58 PM PST by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: najida

"Again, anyone in authority who abuses it is an abuser."

I agree totally with your concluding statement.

I don't agree with your statements concerning men and power vs. sex. (I can't say whether or not they apply to women). One of the reasons men want power is to obtain the real objective -- sex.

Teachers already enjoy tremendous power over their students. Not only the bestowed authority (which is much weaker today than it was 50 years ago) -- but also the power that comes from the higher status that teachers have compared to students. This perceived power and status is attractive to many students. The teachers have a duty not to betray the trust parents give them to look after their children.


355 posted on 03/21/2006 1:54:20 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: beyond the sea
I'd park my bike in her garage.

Unless you are 14 and under, she'll have no part of you. This is one sick woman.

356 posted on 03/21/2006 1:54:50 PM PST by frogjerk (LIBERALISM: The perpetual insulting of common sense.)
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To: Dominic Harr; najida
If you think men lose steam, drive and passion as we age -- you don't know the *men* I know, then!

We aren't talking about those on the little blue pill.

357 posted on 03/21/2006 1:55:07 PM PST by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: Riverman94610
You don't think a crackhead buying crack is a victim???

My best friend in HS became a crackhead, I'm afraid. He got clean, then went back to it, then got clean, then back to it . . .

He wasn't a victim, except of his *own* habit, his own accord.

He was not a victim of the crack dealer.

358 posted on 03/21/2006 1:55:17 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: Dominic Harr
My boy..."That away kid, just don't gett'er pregnant..."

My girl..."Honey load up the pistol and I'll be a little late getting back from the Teacher/Parent conference. I've got bail money"
359 posted on 03/21/2006 1:55:46 PM PST by jmq (Islam=Religion of Peace)
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To: Abathar
You're making too much sense for some around here.

;-)

360 posted on 03/21/2006 1:57:29 PM PST by beyond the sea (The definition of a 'Targeted Tax Cut' is ........................ you ain't gettin' it)
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