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Group: Geico Insurance Rates 'Very Unfair'
reuters ^ | 3/20/06

Posted on 03/20/2006 5:25:49 PM PST by mathprof

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To: mathprof


You mean it is not like free "pie and chips?"


61 posted on 03/20/2006 6:03:59 PM PST by msnimje (SAMMY for SANDY --- THAT IS WHAT I CALL A GOOD TRADE!!!)
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To: PLK

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1599990/posts?page=55#55

See my post. I'm sure their models have been tested and retested over and over. An educated 40 year old with a master's degree is a much less risk than a 25 year old who went to tech school. It's just a fact.


62 posted on 03/20/2006 6:04:51 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: mathprof
Most states require that insurers file papers explaining their underwriting critera in excruciating detail. If the criteria is illegal based on the state's statutes, the state Dept. of Insurance can tell them to go back to the drawing board and come up with other guidelines.

These folks are simply fishing for lawsuit money. Period. They are circumventing our elected representatives and the executive branch by appealing to the liberal judiciary to get what they know they can't get through the legislature or via the court of public opinion.

63 posted on 03/20/2006 6:05:07 PM PST by Tamar1973 ("There are some things for which we should display no tolerance." Queen Margrethe II of Denmark)
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To: mathprof
I just compared rates on Geico.com.

I would save a little... not a whole heck of a lot... by switching.

But I like knowing that I have an agent a block away who has helped me before. Maybe if I moved to a different locale, and I'd have to find a different agent anyway, I'd switch.
64 posted on 03/20/2006 6:05:25 PM PST by birbear (You know what? This is crap. We're going to stop this.)
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To: birbear

I think the little gecko is cute, even with the Aussie accent. He's all that and a bag of chips (aka freedom fries).


65 posted on 03/20/2006 6:06:17 PM PST by Tamar1973 ("There are some things for which we should display no tolerance." Queen Margrethe II of Denmark)
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To: PLK
It's called ACTUARIAL SCIENCE. Predictive models are derived by insurance companies that can determine risk based on the insured's personal data.

As I read my own post, I think about health insurance. Is the day coming when what we pay is determined by "predictive models" of our health risk? Will morbidly obese smokers be required to pay more? Will thin marathon runners pay the minimum rates?

Just questions I'm throwing out there.

66 posted on 03/20/2006 6:06:45 PM PST by PLK
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To: Dustbunny
A leading U.S. consumer group Monday accused Geico Corp. of using consumers' education backgrounds and occupations as criteria in setting auto insurance rates, resulting in discrimination against minorities and lower-income people.

"I have no idea if they do this but I do know that when we retired and moved back to Pennsylvania from Virginia we called Geico for a rate. We then called Allstate, Progressive and State Farm. Allstate was the cheapest for the same coverage on all quotes."

Yes, they do this. GEICO (others perhaps) use you credit score as well, which has nothing to do with driving habits. I know, GEICO sent me a letter.

67 posted on 03/20/2006 6:07:06 PM PST by Spirochete
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To: birbear

Well you see you can get free pie and free chips anywhere but you can't get..well you know the rest,LOL. I find the new ads a lot catchier than the ones they had before And I have looked into changing insurance to them


68 posted on 03/20/2006 6:08:24 PM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: Liberator
I had Farmers(?) Insurance.

I saved $2,700 from Farmers (which I had before) -- and I found it on Mercury.com that actually computed that The Hartford would be cheapest.

It sort of restored my faith in Humanity.

69 posted on 03/20/2006 6:08:39 PM PST by freedumb2003 (American troops cannot be defeated. American Politicians can.)
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To: Clemenza

¡Esteban!


70 posted on 03/20/2006 6:09:20 PM PST by pierrem15
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To: PLK

Marathon runners have a higher risk of bone/joint damage. Where does it end?


71 posted on 03/20/2006 6:09:32 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Spirochete

In their minds, a good credit rating means your good at other aspects of your life, bill paying, law abiding, etc. I'm sure they've done regressions on this and mapped the correlations.


72 posted on 03/20/2006 6:11:23 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: PLK
As I read my own post, I think about health insurance. Is the day coming when what we pay is determined by "predictive models" of our health risk? Will morbidly obese smokers be required to pay more? Will thin marathon runners pay the minimum rates?

Auto, health and life insurance already disrciminate against smokers -- they al have "smoker" and "non-smoker" rates. Not something never-smokers would notice, but us ex-smokers notice it A LOT.

5 years since I quit -- 2nd smartest thing I ever did.

73 posted on 03/20/2006 6:11:58 PM PST by freedumb2003 (American troops cannot be defeated. American Politicians can.)
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To: birbear; Beagle8U
And what the hell is/are "pie and chips"?

Beagle has it right. Pie and chips is typical British pub food, the pie being a meat or fish pie -- steak and kidney, or chicken and mushroom, or lamb, or for real Cockneys (the working-class East Londoners the Gecko's accent mimics), eel pie. "Chips" are the British term for fries.

Pie and chips, with a slightly-below-room-temperature pint of ale or two, while not fine cuisine, can be tasty, and certainly filling. I'll pass on the eel pie, however.

74 posted on 03/20/2006 6:12:19 PM PST by southernnorthcarolina (Some people are like Slinkies: totally useless, but fun to throw down a stair.)
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To: jigsaw

Bill would get turned on by that, no doubt;)


75 posted on 03/20/2006 6:13:30 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: Indy Pendance
Marathon runners have a higher risk of bone/joint damage. Where does it end?

I know. But, if you are looking at the level of the gnat's *ss like the number crunchers do, the actuarial models will likely give some of us conclusions we don't want to hear.

76 posted on 03/20/2006 6:13:38 PM PST by PLK
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To: pierrem15
¡Esteban!

Who the heck is Esteban? I never heard of him before that commercial.

77 posted on 03/20/2006 6:13:41 PM PST by freedumb2003 (American troops cannot be defeated. American Politicians can.)
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To: PLK
Like I said in a previous post, I considered actuary as a career. The minutiae they are involved in, the number crunching, it was fascinating, but not my cuppa tea. I'd rather kind of do statistics related to a project (DOE for example), than to have my projects be based upon statistics.
78 posted on 03/20/2006 6:16:54 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Liberator

"GEICO'S rates are so "unfair" I saved $3500 on my auto insurance. "

What? I live in Yokohama, and have been paying around $700 a year.


79 posted on 03/20/2006 6:17:03 PM PST by dsc
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To: freedumb2003

You're way behind, gotta catch up. :)


80 posted on 03/20/2006 6:17:59 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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