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Mel Gibson Slams Bush in Interview about New Film 'Apocalypto'
The National Ledger ^ | 03-20-06 | CK Rairden

Posted on 03/20/2006 10:12:58 AM PST by Coastal

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To: lady lawyer

"Why on earth is he slamming the people who supported him?"

Publicity and $$$???


181 posted on 03/26/2006 7:55:45 PM PST by LucyJo ("I have overcome the world." "Abide in Me." (John 16:33; 15:4)
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To: nickcarraway
How do you know whether Mel Gibson is in union with Rome or not?

Because the diocese of Los Angeles has said he is not.

182 posted on 03/26/2006 8:03:58 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: Stayingawayfromthedarkside

I hear that some people make a lot of money from attempting to throw a ball into a hoop. There's some connection to overpriced sneakers that people, even children, will steal and kill for. Has Mr. Barkley heard about any of that?

If he's some sort of a Republican, he must be of the McCain sort.


183 posted on 03/26/2006 8:09:34 PM PST by skr (We cannot play innocents abroad in a world that is not innocent.-- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Giant Conservative
Here's the exact quote:

You know, I might not hurry back. I might go and go somewhere no-one can find me. You know where that is? You know where the place is no-one can find you? I was thinking of pitching my tent right next to the weapons of mass destruction. Then no-one would find me.
184 posted on 03/26/2006 8:27:05 PM PST by Rastus
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To: MineralMan
"I've never understood why anyone cared about the political beliefs of actors and directors. It seems pretty irrelevant to me."

Quoted for truth.

185 posted on 03/26/2006 8:29:58 PM PST by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: lady lawyer
"Why on earth is he slamming the people who supported him?"

Simple. He does not need us any more. The Passion of the Christ was a religious movie. Hollywood does not like Religious Movies when the Religion is Christianity. Hollywood gave him a hard time as did the MSM. The made it clear the movie would be shunned by the Hollywood powers that be. Gibson needed us for the Passion. To sell this new movie, he needs Hollywood. In order to get back in good graces, he needed to make it seem that the theme of the movie was anti-Bush. Hollywood loves anti-Bush stuff and therefore will help him promote the movie. It has nothing to do with principle and everything to do with money. The only Actor in the past 50 years who was not about money was Charlton Heston. Gibson does not have what it takes to be like Heston. Therefore he will promote this move as having an anti-Bush message and Hollywood and the MSM will eat it up. I am a Gibson fan (Braveheart, The Passion, etc). I will not see this new movie. I don't like movies with Anti-Bush themes. Apocalypto could be the Brokeback Bush movie of 2006. Hooray for Hollywood!!!
186 posted on 03/27/2006 8:32:33 AM PST by wmileo
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To: lady lawyer

"Why on earth is he slamming the people who supported him?"

I have seen a whole lot of President 'slamming' on FR as of late.


187 posted on 03/27/2006 8:38:23 AM PST by lawdude (2006 Republican bumper sticker : Vote Republican: We are NOT democrats!)
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To: Rastus

It was interesting that they released the interview on DVD: people forget just how gargantuan a cultural phenomenon TPOTC was. I wish PAX TV would release their "making of The Passion" special on DVD too.


188 posted on 03/27/2006 1:03:16 PM PST by Giant Conservative
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To: wmileo

Mel has always been against the Iraq War.


189 posted on 03/27/2006 1:04:42 PM PST by Giant Conservative
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To: Coastal

I'm not sure why anyone would assume that because Gibson is a staunch Catholic he would be supportive of everything George W. Bush does. It's kind of weird how all Christians get lumped into one big belief system-hey, Mel likes Jesus, he must like George Bush too, right?

The Catholic church is pacifist and opposed to the war in Iraq. Not surprised to hear that Gibson may be as well.


190 posted on 03/27/2006 1:10:05 PM PST by busstopsindetroit
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To: Corin Stormhands

"And some of us are able to separate entertainment from politics. "

And some of us are even able to separate religion from politics. Why do some people think that being Christian must equal being a Bush supporter? (Though personally I am both).


191 posted on 03/27/2006 1:13:41 PM PST by busstopsindetroit
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To: auto power

Why feel used? He's a devout, if schismatic Catholic. There is no reason to feel used because he doesn't agree with the FReepers who march in lockstep with EVERYTHING Bush does. I voted for Bush, I'd do it again if I could but I still have serious misgivings about some of his policies and actions. On FR apparently, that makes me a Left-Wing Moonbat. Sad really.

It really boggles my mind that people are getting so bent about this. It IS possible that Mel just disagrees with the President on this. Why is it such a big deal?


192 posted on 03/27/2006 1:32:02 PM PST by Romish_Papist (St. Jude, pray for my lost cause. St. Rita, pray for my impossible situation.)
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To: Cobra64

One comment makes you think he's a liberal? Come on...


193 posted on 03/27/2006 1:50:25 PM PST by Romish_Papist (St. Jude, pray for my lost cause. St. Rita, pray for my impossible situation.)
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To: busstopsindetroit

Correction, the Catholic Church is not pacifist, it does recognize "just wars" and the ability to defend oneself from harm.


194 posted on 03/27/2006 1:59:10 PM PST by Romish_Papist (St. Jude, pray for my lost cause. St. Rita, pray for my impossible situation.)
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To: Romish_Papist

"Correction, the Catholic Church is not pacifist, it does recognize "just wars" and the ability to defend oneself from harm."

Yes, you are correct of course, I should have said more specifically "tends toward pacifist in many situations" or something similar-but that doesn't negate the original point that the Church opposes the Iraq invasion and it is therefore not surprising that Gibson, a devout Catholic, would oppose it to.


195 posted on 03/27/2006 4:52:15 PM PST by busstopsindetroit
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To: Tired of Taxes
I saw a scientific investigation on the Discovery Science Channel concerning the collapse of the Mayan Civilization. It showed political structure of the family caused its collapse. The lower casts (there was a rigid cast system) supported in its entirety the royal family. The royal family exerted complete power over its subjects for control. The practice of human sacrifice--the extracting of the heart from a victim--emphasized this control by creating a fearsome rule over its subjects. Such sacrifices were done on the coronation of a new king.

As with any monarchy,the first born male, fathered by the King would inherit the rights of royalty. The Mayan civilization, however, became doomed to destruction with the practice of polygamy. Polygamy was widely practiced, as the kings and their successors had many children with multiple wives, fostering competition within families. Each of the princes wanted to gain more power than his brothers, and turned to fighting against one another to gain more territory. While there was little problem with overpopulation among the lower casts, the elite class grew rapidly. They all desired palaces and riches, and this put huge pressures on the lower casts to support them. The wars kept them isolated to small tracts of land where they had to build strong walls for protection. Isolation and pressure on the small tracts of land they could use for agriculture led them slowly to starvation. Agriculture was practiced only within those walls and the land was rapidly overused. Wars wiped out entire royal families and caused mass starvation. Refugees from such wars also caused overpopulation and social stress in other areas. This caused the rain forest to begin to disappear, and the civilization began to collapse when the lower casts could not support the royal class.

I know it may seem simplistic, but I see a similar elite royal class of bureaucrats sustained by productive workers as a goal that the socialist Democrats want for the United States. They are the ones who are using fear mongering tactics to enlist social compliance with their goals.

Mel Gibson is one more dupe in the left's effort to create an alternative reality that justifies their march on human freedom.

196 posted on 03/27/2006 6:28:26 PM PST by jonrick46
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To: jonrick46

That does sound like yet another history lesson on what happens when a government (in this case, a monarchy) exercises complete control over the people.

Years and years ago, I visited Chichen Itza which is an ancient Mayan city in the Yucatan. Back then, there were theories that since then have been changed, as your post shows. For example, when our guide showed us the above-ground well, he said it was believed that young virgins (girls) were sacrificed to the god(s) there, but that they found only (or mostly) the remains of young boys there. So, their new theory was that the "kings" were keeping the young girls hidden for themselves, and then dressing up boys as girls and sacrificing them in front of the crowd.

Well, recently, I read a newer theory that young men were sacrificed willingly and considered it an honor.

But I think what you described makes more sense: Maintaining a reign of terror is how dictators keep the masses under their control.


197 posted on 03/27/2006 8:15:10 PM PST by Tired of Taxes (That's taxes, not Texas. I have no beef with TX. NJ has the highest property taxes in the nation.)
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To: sinkspur
Because the diocese of Los Angeles has said he is not.

Okay, then you will be able to provide a citation from the diocese of Los Angeles that says Mel Gibson, "is not in union with Rome." They wouldn't keep such information a secret, would they?

198 posted on 03/27/2006 10:46:53 PM PST by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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To: Tired of Taxes
Good info. I doubt that Apocalypto will have any true insight into the nature of the Mayan society.
199 posted on 03/28/2006 11:15:38 AM PST by jonrick46
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To: Coastal

As an Evangelical Christian who was "supposed to" like the Passion, I did not like the movie very much. I thought it was at points silly (e.g. the scene where Jesus the carpenter was shown to have invented the table/chair combination), and was melodramatic at the expense of being thought-provoking.


200 posted on 05/12/2006 8:54:04 AM PDT by dinoparty
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