[kronos77]

I leave you with the following quote: "This organized anti-Serb and pro-Muslim propaganda should cause anyone believing in democracy and free press serious concerns. It recalls Hitler's propaganda against the allies in World War II. Facts are twisted and, when convenient, disregarded." -- Yohanan Ramati, director of the Jerusalem Institute for Western Defense.

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Yes, and that is true.Problem brigs that nothing much has changed on the west.

[Dustbunny]

In civil wars, all sides do terrible things; but in this war, the mainstream media misled the American people so as to present a favorable side for the Bosnian Muslims, while failing to report the meddling and bungling of U.S. foreign policy during the Clinton administration.

I have never understood why Clinton acted as he did in Bosnia, favoring the drug running, murdering Muslims.

The American MSM are whores for the democrats. They care not who is hurt by their lies and half truths, just that what they report makes Democrats look good to the American voter. Why this is so is beyond my comprehension.

[Labyrinthos]

Clintoon lied and people died.

[bill1952]

If the "trusted" CNN lied about that, what else have they lied about?

Everything.

[righthand man]

I always did think we were on the wrong side in the "Clinton little war"

[gafusa]

It recalls Hitler's propaganda against the allies in World War II.

Or the British and allied propaganda that brought us into the WWI debacle.

[RoadTest]

And the Force behind anti-Serbism is the Vatican, with centuries of Eastern Orthodox hate and warfare behind it culminating in the gory genocidal atrocities visited on the Serbs by Croats and Catholic priests during WWII.

The media has indeed been lopsided here.

[Tribune7]

Another part of Clinton's glorious legacy.

[A. Pole]

ALL THE SUFFERING, bloodshed and death in Bosnia might have been averted had it not been for the meddling of our State Department. In The Lisbon Agreement of 1992, all three Bosnian leaders representing the Croats, Muslims and Serbs, endorsed the proposal that the republic be a confereration divided into three ethnic regions. The plan was scuttled when our American ambassador to Yugoslavia advised Alija Izetbegovic, representing the Muslim party of Bosnia, that "if he didn't like it, why sign it?" This doomed an agreement that even the same ambassador later said "wasn't so bad after all."

A thing to remember. Also the Serbian Krajina did not have to be destroyed and Kosovo did not have to be purged of Serbs and Gypsies.

[paudio]

Thanks for the article.

Ping for later.

[montyspython]

ALL THE SUFFERING, bloodshed and death in Bosnia might have been averted had it not been for the meddling of our State Department. In The Lisbon Agreement of 1992, all three Bosnian leaders representing the Croats, Muslims and Serbs, endorsed the proposal that the republic be a confereration divided into three ethnic regions. The plan was scuttled when our American ambassador to Yugoslavia advised Alija Izetbegovic, representing the Muslim party of Bosnia, that "if he didn't like it, why sign it?" This doomed an agreement that even the same ambassador later said "wasn't so bad after all.""

This needs to be repeated over and over and over until the thick headed baboons in the State Department understand it.

[Ditto]

Don't put all the blame on Clinton for this mess. There were plenty of propagandists around including Bob Dole who helped push the administration into arming the Mussies in Bosnia.

Follow the money.

[Iris7]

The very tiniest amount of investigation or the slightest interest in what propaganda is and why it works would have (and for some did) expose the ex-Yugoslavia situation for what it was.

Why the "public" falls for what is really very insultingly stupid and obvious propaganda is well understood. Goebbels explained it thoroughly.

Want to see into the Liberal MSM heart? Easy as fishing. An illustration from Josef Goebbels, again:

Goebbels said: "Propaganda? Certainly! Good propaganda for a good cause! We make propaganda not in the pay of forces or men in the background, but rather we make propaganda for our own honest convictions. We advertise for our own ideal, and therefore we fight using all good means to make good propaganda to win the soul of our people."

Goebbels spoke from the heart. He was being totally honest.

You see, the MSM people really and truly believe in Socialism and believe in Socialism in just the same way that Josef Goebbels did.

Oh, yeah, they are making exactly the same sort of propaganda campaign about Iraq as they did about Serbia. The President is Hellspawn, evil in every and all ways, evil to the core, and lies worse than the Devil. Iraq is bad, evil, useless, destructive, etc. Their program is working just as they intended.

People are idiots.

[Beckwith]

We backed the wrong side in this one.

[MadelineZapeezda]

God Bless the author of this excellent article. She's a FReeper!

[Spiff]

Clinton lied and innocent people died.

[Fishrrman]

I contend that the Serbians were the "right side" in the Serbian/Bosnian conflict.

I supported them then - their excesses notwithstanding.

The Serbian/Bosnian conflict represented the "Clash of Civilizations" which professor Samuel Huntington wrote about so eloquently. Christianity vs. Islam, no-holds-barred.

The Serbians knew what was as stake.
They knew that they could not live peacefully with a mixed/Muslim population.
They knew what had to be done.
And they had the nerve to go out and _do_ it.

Thus, "ethnic cleansing".

I contend that the Serbian/Bosnian conflict represents a harbinger of where The West is headed in general - a view of what's to come.

Here on Free Republic, we talk about "Eurabia" - the fall of Europe to Islam.
We say that Islam is incompatible with all the values of a Western culture.
We talk about kicking Islamics out, sending them back to Muslim states.
Lots of "big talk". But - when the chips are down (as they someday WILL be), I wonder how many of the big talkers will turn into fast walkers (especially when something called a "draft" is mentioned!)....

The Serbians walked the walk - and we bombed them for doing so.

The clash of civilizations cannot be won on our terms of engagement. It will only be won on _their_ terms.

The Serbians understood the meaning of "their terms".

If we are not willing to engage in ethnic - and cultural - cleansing, the OTHER SIDE will eventually engage it - against US. They have no qualms - NONE - about establishing a worldwide Islamic state. They believe their way is superior, the destined will of allah (I refuse to capitalize that false deity), and they will do what is necessary to establish that will worldwide. For them the end is justified by the means, and they will use ANY means necessary to achieve it.

I believe OUR culture is superior (yes, SUPERIOR). And faced with such an enemy, there can be no reasonable or rational choice other than to grit our teeth and realize that we, too, must use what means necessary to achieve our goal. We do this not because we want to, but because we must.

That "goal" is the preservation of Western civilzation and the overthrow of Islam, the enemy of freedom.

- John