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Is bar set too high for schools?
Sacramento Bee ^ | 3/19/6 | Jim Sanders

Posted on 03/19/2006 6:19:56 PM PST by SmithL

Too many students fail to meet California's standard for proficiency, sparking a simple solution under consideration in the Capitol: redefine "proficient."

By changing a few words in state law, legislators could dramatically affect how the federal government rates the state's education system.

"I think it's a totally sensible thing to do," said Assemblywoman Loni Hancock, D-Berkeley.

Critics of Hancock's proposal, Assembly Bill 2975, say the state's goal should be to improve schools, not alter words.

Hancock counters that both are needed to avoid severe sanctions in coming years under the federal No Child Left Behind Act, or NCLB.

"What all of this needs is for grown-up egos to be set aside and to focus on the young people," she said.

The California School Boards Association and the Association of California School Administrators have taken no position on AB 2975, but they say Hancock has seized on a very real problem.

Jack O'Connell, state schools superintendent, opposes AB 2975.

"It's a measure that would have the net effect of watering down our standards," O'Connell said. "It takes us in the wrong direction."

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: dummies; pspl; publikskoolz; schools; unionthugs
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DUmmie answer from a DUmmie politician.
1 posted on 03/19/2006 6:19:57 PM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

It's fer the chill'ren....


2 posted on 03/19/2006 6:21:30 PM PST by BreitbartSentMe (Ex-Dem since 2001 *Folding@Home for the Gipper - Join the FReeper Folders*)
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To: SmithL

Lower the bar!


3 posted on 03/19/2006 6:22:17 PM PST by 11Bush
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To: SmithL

Schools are too easy as is. Problem is parents think that subpar work deserves a b or an a when in reality shitty work deserves a shitty grade.

Far too many parents get into a hissy when their kids come home with bad grades on a relatively easy assignment and then complain that the material is too hard.

If you took the average american high school kid and placed him into school in say, india or china, they would flunk out pretty fast. We really ought to be demanding more of kids and up the standards. Your going to have to learn alot of that material at some point anyway.


4 posted on 03/19/2006 6:23:07 PM PST by SDGOP
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To: SmithL

A perfect example of the dumbing down of America. Rather than trying to get the students to perform to a higher standard, which is the hard thing, they reduce the standards to their level, which is the easy thing. If our children are never challenged in adolescence, they will not be adequately prepared for adulthood, where they will be challenged on a daily basis. How long is it going to be acceptable to hand functionally illiterate people their HS diplomas?


5 posted on 03/19/2006 6:23:20 PM PST by stm (You can fix a lot of thing s, but you can't fix stupid)
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To: 11Bush

The day they do that is the day my kids are out of public school.

We have a pretty good system in the area where I live, but this is getting ridiculous.


6 posted on 03/19/2006 6:23:56 PM PST by bordergal (1)
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To: SmithL

Given that California schools have dropped from number one in the nation to the bottom five I would say "no, the bar is not set too high."


7 posted on 03/19/2006 6:24:11 PM PST by gondramB (Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and unto God that which is God's.)
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To: SmithL
If the bar is any lower, you won't even have to have a pulse to pass.

And why should you? You don't have to have a pulse to vote Democrat.

8 posted on 03/19/2006 6:25:36 PM PST by IronJack
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To: stm

>How long is it going to be acceptable to hand functionally illiterate people their HS diplomas?

As long as they vote dem. Nothing wlse matters, certainly not America.


9 posted on 03/19/2006 6:25:43 PM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: SmithL

It is the administrators whoring school districts that make these children fail.


10 posted on 03/19/2006 6:26:24 PM PST by Porterville (Sure are a lot of these few Muslim Extremist Fanatics)
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There is NOTHING wrong with the public schools. They are producing plenty of Democratic voters....


11 posted on 03/19/2006 6:26:33 PM PST by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: stm
If our children are never challenged in adolescence, they will not be adequately prepared for adulthood, where they will be challenged on a daily basis.

If the Dems have their way, everyone will be stupid and have to rely fully on the government to think for them. It's the Democratic way!

12 posted on 03/19/2006 6:26:42 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Porterville
It's not the teachers, it's the professors that teach the teachers and the courts that stopped school discipline.
13 posted on 03/19/2006 6:31:18 PM PST by eddie2 (GO CATS)
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To: bill1952

It's the same all over the country, don't educate the students just push them from grade to grade without consequence. Big city, small town as long as the NEA stays in power the education of our students will only get worse.
I'ts time to get rid of all the BULLSH$T classes and get back to what worked for a hundred years and had our kids at the top, not 50 or 60 on the list.


14 posted on 03/19/2006 6:31:27 PM PST by snowman1
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To: gondramB
Here's the latest state rankings:

http://www.morganquitno.com/edrank.htm
15 posted on 03/19/2006 6:32:12 PM PST by stm (You can fix a lot of thing s, but you can't fix stupid)
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To: SmithL
Overheard at a screening of 'V For Vendetta':

Dude, what does 'Vendetta' mean?

I dunno

No, the bar is not too high.
16 posted on 03/19/2006 6:32:49 PM PST by Borges
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To: 11Bush
Lower the bar!

In ca the bar is already on the floor. Have to start tunneling to drop it

17 posted on 03/19/2006 6:32:52 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: stm

Thank you - that shows Cali at #46... lowly Georgia (where i can assure you the public schools suck) is #40.


18 posted on 03/19/2006 6:34:54 PM PST by gondramB (Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and unto God that which is God's.)
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To: SDGOP

When I attended my daughter's middle school graduation last year, I was proud to see that she had an asterix by her name indicating that she had attained the honor roll (GPA of 3.5 or more) for each of the nine trimesters of her middle school career. Until I looked over the entire program and saw that 55% of the class had the same asterix! Talk about blatant grade inflation.


19 posted on 03/19/2006 6:38:29 PM PST by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Axis of Evil: Iran, N. Korea, Syria, Democrat Party & US Mainstream Media)
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To: stm

Five-star post! You've said it perfectly.


20 posted on 03/19/2006 6:38:36 PM PST by annie laurie (All that is gold does not glitter, not all those who wander are lost)
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