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'Law & Order' actor: I know more about war than troops
WorldNetDaily ^ | March 19, 2006

Posted on 03/19/2006 1:57:21 PM PST by West Coast Conservative

According to actor and comedian Richard Belzer, American troops in Iraq and Afghanistan are too uneducated to be expressing support for the U.S. military mission since they're just "19 and 20-year-old kids who couldn't get a job" and "they don't read twenty newspapers a day."

Belzer, who's best known as Detective John Munch on NBC's "Homicide: Life on the Street" and "Law & Order: Special Victim's Unit," is a frequent guest on HBO's "Real Time with Bill Maher." On one previous appearance, he threatened to walk off the set when told columnist Ann Coulter was also appearing, calling her a "fascist party doll." On Friday night's live broadcast, Belzer attacked claims by fellow guest Florida Congresswoman Ileanna Ros-Lehtinen's that U.S. soldiers continue to express support for the war.

In the lively exchange, captured by the website NewsBusters, Belzer dismisses Ros-Lehtinen accounts of meeting with troops in Iraq and their credibility as "bull----."

Congresswoman Ileana Ros-Lehtinen: "Having been in Iraq a few times, and Afghanistan, having met the troops one-on-one with free reign and asking them what they're doing, they're saying 'We're proud of our mission, we know what we're doing over here. We don't want you guys in Washington to lose it over there'. And there is a great sense of determination that what they are doing is making a difference. And yes, it has been an important mission what we're doing ... come on."

Richard Belzer: "Yeah, come on. Our soldiers now are at ..."

Ros-Lehtinen: "Are a volunteer force, a volunteer force."

Belzer: "Okay, fine. No one questions the nobility and the honor that these men and woman who are serving and what they're doing. No one questions that. But now they're targets, they're not going out. Now they're just protecting each other and they're in the middle of a civil war. So it's really not fair to have these people who volunteered their lives to protect our nation under false pretenses to now be a target ..."

[Loud applause for Belzer]

Ros-Lehtinen: "Ask them. Ask them if it's fair! Wait a minute, wait a minute. My stepson, wait a minute, my stepson ..."

Belzer: "That's bull----: Ask them! They're not .. they don't read twenty newspapers a day. They're under the threat of death every minute. They're not the best people to ask about the war because they're going to die any second."

Ros-Lehtinen: "Wait a minute! You are talking about my stepson, my stepson who just finished last week eight months of duty ..."

Belzer: "God bless your stepson. Doesn't mean he's a brilliant scholar about the war because he's there. And God bless him."

Ros-Lehtinen: "Oh, you are though! You are though? Okay."

Belzer: "Well I have more time, I'm not there. My life is not under threat."

Ros-Lehtinen: "Thank you. Thank you. I'm glad."

Bill Maher: "I think the point he's trying to make is that a 19-year-old who is in that army because he probably couldn't find other employment ..."

Ros-Lehtinen: "He's a college graduate. He's a Marine officer. He volunteered for the Marines."

Belzer: "He's the exception for the rule."

Ros-Lehtinen: "He's not the exception for the rule. I've been there ..."

Belzer: "You think everyone over there is a college graduate? They're 19 and 20-year-old kids who couldn't get a job ..."

Ros-Lehtinen:"Yeah, you know because you've been there and ..."

Belzer: "What, I don't f---ing read!? Don't do that!"

Maher [to Belzer]: "Woe, woe, woe. Come on. Wait, wait, wait. That ... Don't."

Belzer: "Pardon my French."

Maher:"Yes ... that was over the line and now you're going to lose ..."

Belzer: "It's this patronizing thing that people have about if you're against the war everyone's lumped together. You know, the soldiers are not scholars, they're not war experts ..."

Maher: "You're going to lose even me like Michael Moore did when he came down on Charlton Heston in Columbine."

Belzer, a conspiracy theorist who once hosted several conspiracy-themed specials for the Sci-Fi Channel, is the author of the 1999 book, "UFOs, JFK, and Elvis: Conspiracies You Don't Have to Be Crazy to Believe."

To view the exchange between Richard Belzer and Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, click here [Note: Contains vulgar language].


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To: West Coast Conservative
Ugly person with ugly inside to boot. He's probably been that ugly since childhood and still needs a pork chop tied around his neck.

101 posted on 03/19/2006 5:20:51 PM PST by daybreakcoming (If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. A. Lincoln)
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To: LdSentinal
And many Freepers still watch the liberal spew from the 'Law and Order' shows

I've been pointing this out to my wife for awhile now!
Sometimes they are way over the top.

102 posted on 03/19/2006 5:40:06 PM PST by Randy Larsen (Rinos suck........)
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To: LdSentinal
"liberal spew"

All tv shows, even CSI and other "reality" based cop shows are heavily laden with lib prop. Last week I was watching that show about missing persons starring Dan LaPaglia last week. My wife likes the show. The episode was about some young women who finally discovered she loved her lesbian friend. Her old man was a mob boss who initially disaproved but who came around when he found out his daughter was serious about her lover. The show ended in a bowling alley with both young women kissing each other. I wanted to heave a brick through the tv.

103 posted on 03/19/2006 5:45:14 PM PST by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Richard Belzer, "Ordinarily he was insane, but he had lucid moments when he was merely stupid."
Heinrich Heine


104 posted on 03/19/2006 9:32:48 PM PST by Valin (Purple Fingers Rule!)
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To: mystery-ak
To think my son changed units so he could go to Iraq and then I read this bile.....I will not let *people* like Belzer demean what my hubby and our sons are doing....

Bravo!! When I read this I was furious at the gall of this person! He's just another ignorant buffoon who knows less than nothing about our military men and women. He's not worthy to shine the shoes of your husband and sons, and not even your own. As always, prayers going out for our military families! :)

105 posted on 03/19/2006 9:41:16 PM PST by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything.)
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To: Kimmers
After high school he was a reporter for the Bridgeport Post. He unsuccessfully attended junior college and later enlisted in the Army. He soon realized it was a mistake and tried to get out.

Belzer: "You think everyone over there is a college graduate? They're 19 and 20-year-old kids who couldn't get a job ..."

The word for today is "projection"

106 posted on 03/20/2006 5:47:30 AM PST by Oztrich Boy ("If you go out there with an innocent heart, you're eaten." - David Attenborough)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Actors, with a few exceptions (Bruce Willis, Mel Gibson and Tom Selleck come to mind) are on a par with whores and thieves. That anybody puts any stock in what they is very sad.


107 posted on 03/20/2006 5:54:51 AM PST by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: Little Ray

This is unreal. I cannot imagine how someone can think they know more about a subject by reading about that someone who is living it. It's obnoxious. I'm sure he'd take real offense if I told him, "I've read many books about acting, and I'm a better actor than you, though I've done nothing in the profession. You're stupid, I'm great."


108 posted on 03/20/2006 6:09:56 AM PST by the tongue
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To: the tongue

I can understand how a troopie might know a lot about the war - generally he's concentratin' on his little piece right around him.
But the paper's are outright lyin' or concentratin' on the bad things. If ya read the papers ya think the "insurgents' got us on the run, when they're ones hidin and runnin' for their lives.


109 posted on 03/20/2006 6:22:08 AM PST by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: ericthecurdog

Well, add another show (SVU) that I will no longer waste time on.....


110 posted on 03/20/2006 6:26:55 AM PST by GreenEggsNHam (Hey... what if the hokey pokey really IS what it's all about?)
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