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In Secret Unit's 'Black Room,' a Grim Portrait of U.S. Abuse
NY Times ^ | Eric Schmitt & Carolyn Marshall

Posted on 03/19/2006 11:14:50 AM PST by Crackingham

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To: billorites
In the black room with white curtains near the station?

I thought it was at the station.... Great song though. I heard this one thousands of time, my bro MAY have actually worn this one out, playing it so many times on the little player in our room....
"In a white room, with black curtains, at the station.."
... Had a great drum riff;he (Ginger Baker) would do a little tom-tom riff/triplett pattern that was really cool. He was one of the original rock and roll drum soloists.
What drummer my age doesn't know how to do at least SOME of his solo from "In-a gada-davida?" Ahhh, now THAT was real drumming!!

21 posted on 03/19/2006 11:31:44 AM PST by China Clipper
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Gee Crack...is this your pennance to get your Gold Star at the DUmp?

BTW....if the NYT can't even get the ID of a person in an alleged "abuse" photo right...what makes you think there's any accuracy to this story?

*rolls eyes*


22 posted on 03/19/2006 11:32:10 AM PST by txradioguy (In Memory Of My Friend 1SG Tim Millsap A Co. 70th Eng. K.I.A. 25 April 2005)
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What drummer my age doesn't know how to do at least SOME of his solo from "In-a gada-davida?" Ahhh, now THAT was real drumming!!

Check out Carl Palmer on the opening song of ELP's live album..

23 posted on 03/19/2006 11:33:59 AM PST by cardinal4 (The 9-11 Commission, America's National Shame)
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they were granted anonymity to encourage them to speak candidly without fear of retribution from the Pentagon.

A lot easier to invent agenda fitting details this way...right Pinch?

24 posted on 03/19/2006 11:39:01 AM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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I know so many liberals who wallow (best word I could come up with) in pleasure with every new problem in Iraq. They truly want America to lose in Iraq just so they can throw it in Bush's face.

They simply have no idea, no way to conceive, what happens if all their leaks and their backstabbings really do result in catastrophe.

For them, a short history lesson. In 1071, the Byzantine Empire Romanus IV led the Byzantine army and confederates to attack the invading Turks near Lake Van. At a place called Manzikert, Romanus had to fall back to some previously set lines to regroup. This was not a serious situation as the Byzantines were both better armored and, in total, greater in number. But the Byzantine leader of the rear guard(Andronicus Ducas) supposedly covering Romanus's retreat refused to cover that retreat, allowing Romanus to be captured. The battle turned into a rout. Ducas meanwhile took his troops back to Constantinople to overthrow Romanus's claim to the throne.

Romanus was handed back over to the Ducas family who humiliated him, then blinded him and then tortured him. One of the Ducas supporters (the historian Michael Psellus)went to the prison where he taunted Romanus saying that since Romanus was now blind he could spend his time contemplating things spiritual.

The Turks meanwhile captured the heart of the Byzantine Empire. The Byzantines never really recovered from the treachery of Ducas and the defeat at Manzikert.

Sound familiar?

McVey


25 posted on 03/19/2006 11:39:25 AM PST by mcvey
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26 posted on 03/19/2006 11:39:54 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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Shocking. Tragic. Disgraceful.

So, what did everybody have for lunch?


27 posted on 03/19/2006 11:40:20 AM PST by Slings and Arrows ("Facts are a Zionist plot!" --MarkL)
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To: cardinal4
Listening to "Tale of Brave Ullyses"?

"White Room," a.k.a. "Eric Clapton Buys A Wah-Wah Pedal." :^)

28 posted on 03/19/2006 11:42:22 AM PST by Slings and Arrows ("Facts are a Zionist plot!" --MarkL)
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In the windowless, jet-black garage-size room, some soldiers beat prisoners with rifle butts, yelled and spit in their faces and, in a nearby area, used detainees for target practice in a game of jailer paintball.

Their intention was to extract information to help hunt down Iraq's most-wanted terrorist, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, according to Defense Department personnel who served with the unit or were briefed on its operations.

Who in Hell cares about the treatment of these murdering bastards, kill them all and let the undertakers sort them out!

This nation needs to quit kissing the ass of the avowed enemy and the liberal "pissin' and moaning" Rinos and Dems who are always finding fault with our troops and their leadership's actions!

This playing by the PC rules will be the cause of our losing many more service people and possibly the war!

29 posted on 03/19/2006 11:42:36 AM PST by VOYAGER
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"In the black room with white curtains near the station?

Where the shadows run from themselves..."

William Shatner, right??!! :-)

(Hitting "Abuse" now).


30 posted on 03/19/2006 11:43:04 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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Does this come from the same source that claimed falsely to have been photographed at Abu Gharab?

NYT: All the news that's print to fit.

31 posted on 03/19/2006 11:43:24 AM PST by AmishDude (Amishdude, servant of the dark lord Xenu.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

There was major wah wah action on Tales of Brave Ullyses as well. Creem just had a reunion concert in London, Im looking forward to hearing the CD..


32 posted on 03/19/2006 11:46:28 AM PST by cardinal4 (The 9-11 Commission, America's National Shame)
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In the windowless, jet-black garage-size room, some soldiers beat prisoners with rifle butts, yelled and spit in their faces and, in a nearby area, used detainees for target practice in a game of jailer paintball.

Somewhere in Arizona, Joe Arpaio is taking copious notes.

33 posted on 03/19/2006 11:47:07 AM PST by Slings and Arrows ("Facts are a Zionist plot!" --MarkL)
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There was major wah wah action on Tales of Brave Ullyses as well.

True, now that I think about it. Been a while since I listened to that one.

34 posted on 03/19/2006 11:48:18 AM PST by Slings and Arrows ("Facts are a Zionist plot!" --MarkL)
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Well I hope they have the sense to hire him.

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35 posted on 03/19/2006 11:51:50 AM PST by mware (A teacher of geography.)
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Well, I dived into the article, read page after page and never found the punch line. He writes like someone telling a ghost story around the campfire, lots of creepy sound effects and story telling tricks to lead you to think the payoff is just seconds away, but there is no payoff. Everybody knows you constantly have to be on the jailors and interrorgators to keep them from going over board, but it seems like we are trying to do that, and mostly succeeding. The abuses the MSM keep telling us about need to be restrained, but they are much less than we see in the American jails and prisons everyday. When you have prisoners and jailors, perfection is impossible if the media reported on the L.A. County jail like this, it would have to be shut down.


36 posted on 03/19/2006 11:52:56 AM PST by ansel12
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37 posted on 03/19/2006 11:56:43 AM PST by P.O.E.
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In the New York Times Editorial Room, A Grim Picture of Treason, Lies, and Marxism...
38 posted on 03/19/2006 11:57:37 AM PST by pabianice
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Even if we are torturing these scum, so what. If anyone ever needed to be tortured, its these pieces of crap.


39 posted on 03/19/2006 11:57:45 AM PST by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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The left will use this as justification for more gays in the military. They would NEVER decorate a room like that.


40 posted on 03/19/2006 11:59:40 AM PST by Random Access
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